The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

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  • IronHerbIronHerb
    He's putting himself in the shop window in case we don't sign him up.
  • alderzalderz
    It seems to me like Moyes is basically saying "if they don't hire it me it shows they are poorly run"
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I took it more as, 'If I turn them down, it's because I think they are poorly run.'

    Or is that the same thing ;hmm
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I think it was the Carroll issue leak which got him thinking as previously he'd said he was loving t here
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Yes, but now he’s going into a negotiation so all can’t be rosey else he’d have nothing to put right.

    Just a thought.
  • alderzalderz
    MrsGrey said:

    I took it more as, 'If I turn them down, it's because I think they are poorly run.'

    Or is that the same thing ;hmm

    Maybe a bit of both?
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Some of the comments he has made lately make me think that he has a very high opinion of himself, it is inevitable that a manager of a Premier League club has to exude confidence, but there is a very fine line that has to be negotiated here and for me, Dm crosses over that line as I simply do not think he is as good as he would like me to think.

    His record at Everton was certainly creditable but the game has moved on since those days and he has not done much in recent years, including imo, his stint with us, to back up his statements.

    If it turns out that he stays and the owners offer him a contract for a couple of years, sobeit, I will support him and of course wish him well, but for me, I hope that the owners are looking to appoint someone soon who they/I feel presents a better chance of growth full development and a long term replacement.

    Just my tuppence worth

  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    It is a bit strange

    Everton was his peak and he was great....but it was 5 years ago....

    Hes been a flop at his over jobs,arguably this has been his most successful job since everton and we arent even sure of him
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    My thorts are now if he stays or goes I wouldn’t be bothered either way
  • nychammer66nychammer66
    Who are we going to get who is any better? Be real.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I'm not sure what comments he's made that imply he's got a too high opinion of himself. He said he should be managing a side which is pushing for top 6 or 8 but to me that didn't suggest he didn't think it could be with us.
    I think if he goes and the decision is his it will be because he knows or suspects that the club won't give him what he says we need to improve sufficiently both in terms of how its organised and performance wise. If it's because the club decides not to give him a contract then the reasons are basically the same but because the Daves are unwilling or unable to give him what he says we need.
    I saw The Debate last night and the chart above with a £7M net spend this season suggests we did extremely well to survive this season at all.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Well he definitely said West Ham have got a good manager. Right at the start. This coming off the back of the relative Man U failure and the aberrations in Spain and at Sunderland. So I certainly agree with Chicago that he has a high opinion of himself. I’d go as far as to say he probably thinks he is better than West Ham and that he possibly believes the club need to put forward a strong enough case to keep him. Yet he sits below Brighton, Watford, etc in the league.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    But with only half a season in charge.

    If he stays, let's judge him on what he has achieved in that year, which includes his transfer dealings.

    If we push on and make progress then great. I'm not sure about Mr Moyes yet, but if he is good for OUR club then keep him long term, love him or hate him.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Sunderland were and are a complete basket case and Sociedad have more managers per season than we have defeats.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    He has had considerably more than half a season and is also far from new to the Prem. He has fallen short of both Hodgson and allardyce (similar experienced Prem managers brought in as saviours). So to me he hasn’t really justified himself for a longer stint. And as for the transfers, if the three we signed were his choices, then I wouldn’t trust that part either
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    thornburyiron said:


    I saw The Debate last night and the chart above with a £7M net spend this season suggests we did extremely well to survive this season at all.

    Not sure where they got that figure from, might well be generous as Transfermarkt.com has a negative net spend of £11m

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/west-ham-united/transfers/verein/379
  • alderzalderz
    That transfermarkt summary is interesting. According to their figures, we bought in £88m worth of talent for £51m, and sold £105m worth for £62m
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    I'm pretty sure Moyes said he 'wants to' be managing a team that can challenge for the top 8/6, rather than he 'should'.

    Personally, I like what he has said. He's not desperate for our job, but would take it if he felt the club could match his ambition/put the right structures in place.

    Since lots of people on here think we should be doing better than we have been in recent years (Payet season apart) presumably they would agree he has a point.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Not really, the club have little ambition for top 6 or 8 (could have had Dendoncker signed Hugill and Evra).

    Which is all fine by me though, as I don't think Moyes is the right man for the job.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Very confused, was all for Moyes from the outset, think he has done well, but the longer he has been in the job the less I`ve warmed to him. I do think he could do a job, but I find him sooooooooooooooo boring. Not sure I`m bothered either way now. On a different note, anything less than £25 million and I would definitely go for Mario, doesn`t seem everyones cup of tea, but I like him.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Linked with Benitez and Pellegrini again today
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    Linked with Benitez and Pellegrini again today

    No Dyche? I thought those three came as a set!
  • alderzalderz
    Madcap ;ok

    I like Mario, but not at £25m+
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Ex reckons we'll get on him another loan next season and re-negotiate the option to buy. He's decent, but only £15m decent, IMO
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    His final impact isnt enough

    But hes tidy on the ball and energetic

    Id be happy for another loan but no chance for £25mil
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Mario is probably the best 'footballer' in the squad. I'd certainly keep him if we can get him on a loan deal and buy him if we can afford it.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    The best footballer? Not sure about that. He seems to do a few things 'okay' but otherwise is impact is minimal and his final execution is often lacking.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Well he scored the first goal at home to Southampton and away to Leicester and has a few assists more than Ayew has done since he has been back at Swanswa
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    alderz said:

    That transfermarkt summary is interesting. According to their figures, we bought in £88m worth of talent for £51m, and sold £105m worth for £62m

    Not quite right, as we only loaned Jaoa Mario and Hart who have values of £23.4m and £11.7m respectively. However, not quite sure I trust their market value figures, as they have Arnie at only £13.5m and Zaba at £6.3m.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited May 2018
    Marca reporting that agreement reached with Manuel Pellegrini to become our new manager.
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