The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...
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So if he is to be judged (as per your opening argument) as a good manager (Everton's results) or a poor manager (the other clubs' results) then why not apply the same to his tenure at West Ham?
You seem to be moving the goalposts? If you want to take account of the contribution the players made to his success/failure (as per your Arnie example) then you have to factor that in at the other clubs too, surely?
We spent 87 days in the bottom three ;nonono
Got to be honest had I been asked I’d never of thought it was anywhere near that long!!
Regarding Moyes, did well at the weekend, he got it spot on and that it how I want to see us play, I actually don’t think him and Bilic are that different, it’s a fine balance between being solid and punishing on the break with pace....
The Dave’s, what a pair they are, how do you manage to get yourself into these types of situations? They’re almost certainly touting other managers, hoping one will take the bait, if they do they say goodbye to Moyes if they don’t they’ll say he was always their number 1 choice (until it inevitably comes out later on). They’re scatter gun approach stinks of being amateurs at this game after trying for 25 years.
I’m really happy that Moyes appears to be calling them out on certain things, fair play to him.
I can only guess but I would imagine Moyes himself would suggest he could have turned it around at Man Utd given that time, and the resources that subsequent managers have been given. But this is all conjecture and so doesn't help us when taking a view of is he the one to take us forward or not.
* Points gained in matches where we went behind. (W2, D6)
+Points lost after scoring first. (1D, 2L)
Not many teams come back from 2-0 down so I think that's a bit harsh.
We came back from 1 goal down to get points in 8 games from the 16 we conceded first so not quite as bad as you contend Lukerz. IMO of course.
I'd have expected it to be the norm that once the losing team has to start pushing for goals, it becomes easier for the winning team to get a couple more, and we are no worse than any other team in that regard. ;hmm
(The stage of the match that the goals are scored probably is a big factor too - how long you have to defend for while trying to fashion opportunities to have a shot on goal.)
When we lose, we seem to get battered. And it's horrible, as it's been going on for a while. You don't mind taking a pasting from the top 4-6 if they're on form, but conceding 3 and 4 to teams in and around us on a regular basis is depressing.
MOYES IN
Quite a good set of stats, imo. For clubs like ours, you need your home games to be your bread and butter points.
6 at home.
2 away at top 6 teams.
1 away at Bournemouth after we went 2-1 down and that flippin' ref overruled the lino to allow the Callum Wilson goal ;angry
I have to say, I'd rather he stayed for the reasons already pointed out in the eyes of consistancey.
We now have to go through the process of more unrest and instability. I hope the owners have their man lined up already!
#moyesin
But yeah, Sully will find a way of making things so much more difficult than they need to be, I'm sure
And not for any really compelling reason (i.e. a star manager is lined up and ready to take the job). Moyes has done a good job in difficult circumstances.
#MoyesIn
We might also have a chance with Benitez if we can categorically offer him more transfer funds than Newcastle.
Emery is better than us and he'll have much more attractive options, IMO.
Rafa, Pellegrini or Jokanovic are about the only ones I can see us having a chance with, but we need to get it sorted ASAP, whatever we decide to do.
Reporting what we suspect. Looking at other options before deciding about Moyes. Should hear in a fortnight.
As regards new players how can a manager bring in a replacement for a player he's never worked with and if a foreigner probably never seen play.
I can see it all going pear shaped and Sullivan saying we tried for A, B, C ....Z and finally got our man but unfortunately there was no time for new signings but January will be our time.