The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

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  • edited May 2018
    Keep reading reports Moyes isn’t deffo a done deal, and now he’s allegedly saying another premier league club wanted him during his time with us, take it that was either Everton Stoke Swansea or West Brom would he have saved them ?
  • This is how it's reported by the Beeb, with quotes. The clubs in question aren't named ;ok
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44058030
  • But wouldn’t have thort it be any team not mentioned
  • You and the Beeb: great minds think alike ;biggrin
  • "I could have joined a Premier League club during the season here, when I was West Ham manager," he said.

    "I chose not to"
    Chose not to? I would have thought the contract he signed with us precluded any 'choice' to move clubs ;hmm

    He says has options elsewhere for next season, too. I wonder if he is calling Sully's bluff ;hmm
  • Just because a manager has a contract doesn't mean he can't change jobs.
  • I know Jorderz, but not without compensation being paid to his current club. Which in this instance assumes West Ham were prepared to agree to let him go. Which I doubt would have happened given our own precarious position.

    So either he was prepared to buy himself out of his contract with West Ham, or there's a bit of a game being played here.

    IMO, of course.
  • edited May 2018
    He’s making himself more attractive by making out he’s in demand. At the end of the day the owners clearly aren’t sold on him, or he isn’t keen on us, or both. If either party was, he’d be signed up already.

    Although, Izzy did suggest this was a 2.5 year contract, but publicised as a 6 month deal, as it had a break clause should we get relegated. ;hmm

    I think Moyes would be an idiot to reject this job. He won’t get any better for a long time. You could argue he was fortunate to get it in the first place.
  • I just think Moyes is playing the game more than Big Sam did. The club has always left it late to renew a contract. Big Sam I believe had a better relationship with the owners and even though in the press it wasn't sure if his contract would be renewed, from what I remember he hardly commented, but yet did get the extension.

    Moyes is obviously worried and from that it sounds as if the board have had less conversations with him than they may have had with Big Sam. Or Big Sam just had more faith.

    Personally from what we've seen in the past, Moyes' contract will be renewed a week after the season has finished.
  • Didn’t he also say he wanted to be with a club pushing for top 6/8.

    That my preclude us
  • Hopefully he keeps stalling.

    "Hi Bournemouth, Eddie Howe ? here's a few million."
  • Didn’t he also say he wanted to be with a club pushing for top 6/8.

    That my preclude us

    Again, I think that's mind games on Moyes' part; a thinly-veiled prod that if Sully wants him, he'll have to match his Top 8 ambitions financially.
  • Beneitz wants 8mil a year to stay at Newcastle !
  • Are you sure that wasn't Newcastle's transfer budget this season?
  • Beneitz wants 8mil a year to stay at Newcastle !

    Sully will swoop and trump that with an offer of £4m a year
  • plus Hugill. ;biggrin
  • Moyes has said time and time again they won’t talk until the seasons over which it isn’t yet.
  • Moyes will stay where else is he going to go .two Daves will stick with him .really not sure if its a good fit or not ,never wanted him but at lest he knows the players now and hopefully who to keep and who to get rid of ,
  • I think WHU need to appoint Moyes and his team. If they don't there will be a big hole to fill. They will need to find another manager who will know little about the current players (who will all disappear to hols next week) or the squad and then needs to strengthen the team without knowing the team. It will be disastrous. I am sure the board is consulting wiser heads like Sir Trevor and will end up appointing Moyes. It is hard to attract any proven manager. I think that despite endless list of injuries and a threadbare squad with some big egos (Sakho, Carroll, Ayew) he did well under the circumstances and accomplished the mission of keeping us in EPL. Of course, Moyes could move on and his stint at WHU would not have done his job prospects any harm as he could claim to have exorcised the ghost of Sunderland relegation. I would personally reappoint Moyes and then see how it all goes for the first 10 games of the next season.
  • Pengeman said:

    I would personally reappoint Moyes and then see how it all goes for the first 10 games of the next season.

    And if we don't get off to a good start, sack him... and be faced with all the same difficulties that you outline as being reasons to keep him. With the added problem that the transfer window will be closed.

    imo, if the board are sure they want him, then they have to be sure they want him even if we hit a sticky patch. and trust him to get us out of it.
  • Yea its really on the board

    Either commit to Moyes or go for someone else, no mid point sacking or end.of window hiring
  • Didn’t he also say he wanted to be with a club pushing for top 6/8.

    That my preclude us

    Again, I think that's mind games on Moyes' part; a thinly-veiled prod that if Sully wants him, he'll have to match his Top 8 ambitions financially.
    Not that thinly-veiled:

    For most of my seasons, apart from one last year, I’ve been competing at the top six or eight. I need to see if West Ham are going to get there. I want to be a manager pushing the top six or eight. You need the tools for that.
    “There’s a lot to be done on the pitch and a lot to be done off the pitch as well,” he added.
    “There are a lot of things we could address, like around the training ground. My experience has allowed me to see what good really looks like off the pitch, whether it be facilities, a board of directors, the people who work round football clubs, the roles people should have.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/09/david-moyes-west-ham-ambition-contract
  • He's putting himself in the shop window in case we don't sign him up.
  • It seems to me like Moyes is basically saying "if they don't hire it me it shows they are poorly run"
  • I took it more as, 'If I turn them down, it's because I think they are poorly run.'

    Or is that the same thing ;hmm
  • I think it was the Carroll issue leak which got him thinking as previously he'd said he was loving t here
  • Yes, but now he’s going into a negotiation so all can’t be rosey else he’d have nothing to put right.

    Just a thought.
  • MrsGrey said:

    I took it more as, 'If I turn them down, it's because I think they are poorly run.'

    Or is that the same thing ;hmm

    Maybe a bit of both?
  • Some of the comments he has made lately make me think that he has a very high opinion of himself, it is inevitable that a manager of a Premier League club has to exude confidence, but there is a very fine line that has to be negotiated here and for me, Dm crosses over that line as I simply do not think he is as good as he would like me to think.

    His record at Everton was certainly creditable but the game has moved on since those days and he has not done much in recent years, including imo, his stint with us, to back up his statements.

    If it turns out that he stays and the owners offer him a contract for a couple of years, sobeit, I will support him and of course wish him well, but for me, I hope that the owners are looking to appoint someone soon who they/I feel presents a better chance of growth full development and a long term replacement.

    Just my tuppence worth

  • It is a bit strange

    Everton was his peak and he was great....but it was 5 years ago....

    Hes been a flop at his over jobs,arguably this has been his most successful job since everton and we arent even sure of him
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