Dimi Payet; the Epilogue

SuzanneClaret

Indeed you can.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

grey_til_I_dye said:

A Payet in the hand is worth 4 or 5 possibles in the future.

As others have said, Spurs and Liverpool are clear examples of failing to use 'windfall' money effectively.

Well last I saw Spurs were challenging for the title most of the season, albeit a year or two after the money came in.....

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Bale was sold in 2013

13/14: 6th (No Bale)
12/13: 5th
11/12: 4th
10/11: 5th
09/10: 4th

Think it's fair to say that Tottenham were battling the tip 4 before Bale was sold and the players who have helped secure them challenging the top 4 again only Eriksen was bought with the Bale money

We aren't as big or have as much strength as Tottenham did to cope with the lose of Bale

We are more similar to Liverpool and Suarez as we have a good squad but not nearly good enough for top 4 especially if we lose our star

grey_til_I_dye

albeit a year or two after the money came in.....

Which was the point I made.

They didn't significantly benefit from the Bale money, in terms of the players they bought as a result. They shipped out most of them again, almost all at around a 50% loss, with Soldado the worst case, costing £26m and selling fro £10m

Similarly, if we cashed in on Payet (but we won't) there is no guarantee that the money would bring us the players needed to make up for his loss.

The current Spurs team mainly relies on holding on to their best players, more sensible transfers and bringing younger players through, a model I would hope we will follow.

baracks_a_hammer

How exactly have Spurs benefitted from the Bale windfall? They continue to remain 2nd (out of two) in North London

simonc

It would be very hard to turn down any significant offer, its a team game and if we over rely on any one player its a mistake. At 29 he is not our-future but is a great model for how we wish to grow. I loved watching him this year and think we would be sending the wrong message to prospective players if we sold him. WHU needs to be a destination not a station on the way, but if it comes down to it given current fecent signings i would expect the resulting team to be stronger coyi

Moojor

I have nevery in my life had a player name on a football shirt. I may have to get one with Payet this season!

Lukerz

Madrid in talks with Juventus over a world-record move for Pogba. If that is true I can't see them signing him AND Payet, given the two fees involved.

alderz

;ok

OutcastLondoner

With James Rodrigues having trouble getting games at Madrid and the fans at Barca are on Arda Turan's back, I'm not that worried about them going after Payet. I'm sure he wants games and similar players are struggling.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

And if they do get Pogba you'd imagine that they would be reluctant to spend big money on Payet

Bit off west ham but if they secure Pogba for a world record fee then surely Kroos, who's already been linked with City strongly, would probably be moved on......personally I'd take the inteligence and subtle brilliance of Kroos over the flash of pogba

OldCastleSwift

Kroos is absolute quality ;ok

Pearces_Left_Foot

The problem if you sell Payet is we would n't be able to attract a similar quality player to us as players at that level want champions league football

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

OldCastleSwift said:

Kroos is absolute quality ;ok

Lethal combination him and Gundogan if City can pull it off

Pearces_Left_Foot said:

The problem if you sell Payet is we would n't be able to attract a similar quality player to us as players at that level want champions league football

This
See Liverpool and Suarez

NEoldiron

Check out C&H, the French understand ;biggrin
http://www.claretandhugh.info/

https://t.co/q2J5aJClx7

He has said in the most recent interview that he will “probably be at West Ham” .
Probably? ;nonono

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

I thought he said something similar weeks ago?

Drives me nuts places like C&H implying he's going nowhere but running about 4 stories a day on it.

Same with transfer news saying it's mainly all rubbish but still giving the rubbish type space

Lukerz

Payet tells Madrid he wants to join them:
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/681661/West-Ham-Dimitri-Payet-Real-Madrid-wants-transfer-news-gossip

;hmm

SuzanneClaret

No he didn't.

Behave.

PrestonHammer

And I've told Scarlett Johannsson I'm going to marry her. ;thumbsup

AdMeus_CaputFilius

And the good luck fairy has told me I am going to win Euromillions tomorrow night ......

Lukerz

Foreign bloke on Twitter claims Payet's agent met with Real Madrid representatives in London yesterday. ;hmm

OldCastleSwift

;hmm

eskimoking

Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

Foreign bloke on Twitter claims Payet's agent met with Real Madrid representatives in London yesterday. ;hmm

Wouldn't surprise me. Payet could have said 'go and find out what they have to say, but let them know I'm happy here' though, so doesn't really mean anything.

grey_til_I_dye

Here's how the conversation would go, in a world where the above was true

DD's phone rings

- Hello. David Sullivan.

- Hello, this is Real Madrid calling. We've spoken to Payet's agent and ...

(disconnected tone)

-Hello? Hello? I think he hung up again.

Hammerex

Or, the conversation could go,
Hello David Sullivan.

Hello this is Real Madrid calling, we are prepared to pay you 100 million pounds
for Payet.

Sullivan splutters down the phone, How soon do you want him, would the end of the week be o.k. for you.

eskimoking

grey_til_I_dye said:

Here's how the conversation would go, in a world where the above was true

DD's phone rings

- Hello. David Sullivan.

- Hello, this is Real Madrid calling. We've spoken to Payet's agent and ...

(disconnected tone)

-Hello? Hello? I think he hung up again.

I think it would if the player spoke to them, but not the agent. The agent represents many people and surely they can talk to other clubs?

IronHerb

The player cannot talk to other clubs (I think)

grey_til_I_dye

Hammerex

Guess it depends if you are a glass half full or 'some so and so's had half my drink' type.

There's always a chance that any player could leave a club, but in the case of Payet, I believe that chance is small enough not to worry about.

Tomw85

I agree with Grey on this, I think that Payet will still be a West Ham player come that start of the season. I think even he has found it a surprise just how well he has done with us, but at the same time I get the impression that he really does like it here and appreciates the platform we have given him.

Lukerz

Let's be honest, if there is even a sniff that Zidane and Madrid want Payet, he is bound to be interested.

Biggest club in world football, Spain, Champions League, league titles, massive wage...

Let's not pretend he's gonna sit there going "well, I might not get in ahead of Ronaldo or Bale or Isco or Kroos or Benzema", and analysing the Madrid squad and it's depth.

He will back himself to be their star man, as all players do.

Saying we have a new, big stadium is great. Becomes immaterial when they have an 81,000 one.