The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

IronHerb

But new owners traditionally employ their own managers.

ASLEFshrugged

IronHerb said:

But new owners traditionally employ their own managers.

That has certainly been the case at West Ham but it doesn't apply everywhere. WBA's current owners bought the club in September 2016 but Pulis continued as manager until November 2017.

baracks_a_hammer

IronHerb said:

But new owners traditionally employ their own managers.

He wouldn’t be the worst manager a new owner could inherit!!

ClaretandBlueforLife

MrsGrey said:

Daily Express says we are interested in Dyche.

Please, no.

What on earth would be the point?

Well if this is true or only half true this sums up my previous comment that none of us have that much faith/confidence that Sullivan & Gold will get this right. They may be good business people, but as far as matters football go they have no idea.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Grey - scattergun, just like their player transfer policy, bids and enquiries far and wide see which ones take the bait.

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended even though it was widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break, but nobody has actually initiated the break. Moyes is still around and seemingly having to apply for his own job in essence after talks.

All the while the owner of our great club is openly interviewing applicants at his house, jeez.

I think Moyes has probably done enough to warrant a crack at it, I’ve a sneaky feeling he could do okay, but he’s probably upset the regime with his leaks and mentality/culture comments, if he does stay let it be on his terms, so he can try and keep the ringmaster of this circus in check.

Otherwise Dave, walk away you’ve restored your reputation.

Lukerz

Wonder how the press got whiff of that Fonseca interview? Almost like they were tipped off by somebody wanting people to know we interviewed him. ;hmm

thornburyiron

Well I'm pretty certain it wasn't leaked by Moyes.

MrsGrey

His agent is Jorge Mendes.

You wouldn't get very good odds betting against him as the source of the 'leak'.

MrsGrey

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended

Yes there have. Have you not read this thread?

Plus, I assume you saw that the Benitez tweet thing that Suz posted was a fake, and that Benitez has been quoted saying he's not in talks with anybody other than Newcastle?

I can only see grounds for calling it 'scattergun' if you believe all the rumours and gossip that are being touted ... and believe them in the face of actual direct contradiction from the mouths of some of the involved parties.

Also, can you explain the difference between 'scattergun' and 'exploring the options rather than taking the first person that expresses an interest'? ;hmm

Cuz1

Wasn’t me and u get blame for everything

alderz

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended even though it was widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break, but nobody has actually initiated the break. Moyes is still around and seemingly having to apply for his own job in essence after talks.

It was widely reported a few years ago that Parker was our captain and not Upson. Just because the media believe or say something doesn't mean it's true. In a lot of cases I would say yeah go with the common reporting, but if Moyes said his contract ended Sunday night then I can't imagine too many other people know better than what he's said.

MrsGrey

Seeing as we are setting store by The Sun... ;wink
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6283978/west-ham-new-manager-david-moyes-future-uncertain/
'his contract ended at midnight on Sunday'.


It seems as though the earlier 'widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break' wasn't actually accurate.

You live and learn.

ClaretandBlueforLife

I can’t see Benitez coming anywhere near us with S&G in charge. I see now it looks likely that Alladuce is going to be paid off on the remaining 12 months of his contract. Any decent manager we look at will think West Ham Utd or Everton?.....er Everton it is then.
Fact is we have or had a decent manager in Moyes and given time he’ll do ok. There is no quick fix in football, never was, never will be.

Expat_Hammer

Maybe we'll get BFS back

;run

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

MrsGrey said:

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended

Yes there have. Have you not read this thread?

Plus, I assume you saw that the Benitez tweet thing that Suz posted was a fake, and that Benitez has been quoted saying he's not in talks with anybody other than Newcastle?

I can only see grounds for calling it 'scattergun' if you believe all the rumours and gossip that are being touted ... and believe them in the face of actual direct contradiction from the mouths of some of the involved parties.

Also, can you explain the difference between 'scattergun' and 'exploring the options rather than taking the first person that expresses an interest'? ;hmm

Yes I have

Yes I know it was fake, and?

Imo they have a scattergun approach to most things, they don’t do decisive decisions well as Luke had previously posted

I’ll believe what I like and what I hear

Thanks

;ok

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

alderz said:

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended even though it was widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break, but nobody has actually initiated the break. Moyes is still around and seemingly having to apply for his own job in essence after talks.

It was widely reported a few years ago that Parker was our captain and not Upson. Just because the media believe or say something doesn't mean it's true. In a lot of cases I would say yeah go with the common reporting, but if Moyes said his contract ended Sunday night then I can't imagine too many other people know better than what he's said.

All due respect Alderzzz the Parker/Upson thing was just lazy journalism driven by the factor Scotty appeared to lead us

With regards Moyes contract I had the same (above) confirmed by at least two well known sources

grey_til_I_dye

Slizzy

But it wasn't 'widely' reported, despite what you seem to remember, and Moyes' comments would lead you to think it wasn't the case.

sweepy23

I find it hard to fathom that anyone still believes our owners don’t bend the truth and that they have any sort of long term plan (apart from making a lot of money)

baracks_a_hammer

ClaretandBlueforLife said:

Fact is we have or had a decent manager in Moyes and given time he’ll do ok. There is no quick fix in football, never was, never will be.

Well for West Ham it seems there is no slow fix either?

Sam was here for 4 years. He was never accepted by a section at any time. Coupled with that at a time when he was really making progress, he was not supported by a signing or two that could have let us really kick on.

And then Slav - at a time he was really flying again not supported (eMinike etc)

And now Moyes - who knows who was behind the Jan signings, but the less said the better.

sweepy23

Someone on Twitter has just posted that DG was interviewed on SSN and said he hoped Moyes would stay.

Did anyone see this?

IronHerb

But DG has very little input imo.

Vorselaarhammer

;hmm

Gold on new manager: “As we speak David Moyes is on the list of managers and we'll be selecting one in due course. I'd like to think it was David Moyes, I really hope so.”

sweepy23

I really do believe Moyes rejected us and had laid down his demands and it’s for the club to meet them.

Good to hear that DG thinks he’s extremely professional.

baracks_a_hammer

I don’t understand why he needed to say anything at this point. Do they never learn? ;doh

Vorselaarhammer

And we have film...

https://mobile.twitter.com/westham_central/status/996489040995213312

MrsGrey

Vorse - I can get sound only. Anyone else see the video?

MrsGrey

sweepy23 said:

Someone on Twitter has just posted that DG was interviewed on SSN and said he hoped Moyes would stay.

Did anyone see this?

Based on hat Vorse posted, Gold didn't say he hoped Moyes would stay. He said he hoped it would be Moyes who was appointed.

(But he's on a shortlist, all of whom will be looked at.)

Ace of Clubs

Yes I can.

baracks_a_hammer

It’s basically pretty much the same thing though??...

MrsGrey

Not, imo. 'I hope he'll stay' implies it's all his choice.

'I hope he's appointed' means we have a set of criteria that he'll have to meet (and want to stay) before we'll appoint him.