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Is he the right fit or does he still have more to do to win you over?
As like in his previous tenure he's definitely got the squad fitter, as was borne out with the 'distance covered' figures over the first four or five games. That was reflected in the effort shown, which most fans see as the first requirement.
He is old school which to me means he wants to build from the back but has also shown that he can improve and adapt forward players, Arnie and Antonio.
Our Board will only appoint tried and trusted managers so I can't see us getting a new age, young or radical manager so as a safe pair of hands there is not a a lot choice. That sounds a bit negative but we have to get by with what we're given.
So basically he has earned his chance.
But then we do have a better squad than first time round.
I am curious to see how he moulds the side over the summer & what his first 11 will be come first day of next season.
Still hasnt completely won me over, but I like what hes done, especially the last few games and just before lockdown
He has a certain style, which initially can come across as very negative, but as the weeks go by the team have got better and better and we are doing the offensive and defensive side of the game very well
I like the effort and discipline in the side, something we've lacked for years
Think Bowen and Soucek have added real quality to the squad, enough quality that we were too good to go down, which helped him....but if it was Moyes specifically who asked for them he should get credit
We were a point above the bottom 3 before he took over, and we arent too much higher now....so it hasnt been perfect
I like how we are set up atm, and think with a couple additions mid table is attainable
Think that we would take a year of stability and hopefully no fear of the drop, and think Moyes can give us that
He wants to bring in young hungry players which I'm all for, too much of our activity has been short term planning (and just bad planning)
"Our Board will only appoint tried and trusted managers so I can't see us getting a new age, young or radical manager so as a safe pair of hands there is not a a lot choice".
Not sure about that part , I mean Slav had managed overseas and Croatia, but no PL history..So in a way he was a risk, and gave us our best season for many years.
I made it perfectly clear I never wanted Moyes, and deep down I probably still don't, BUT he has done what was required, TWICE, so fair play to him.
He now deserves a fair shot at it IMO, I very much hope he can do well, even if he isn't my " cup of tea ".
The appointment of Pelle was for me a wrong one, the main reason being that his going to manage in China should have been taken as a warning that he had, for all intents and purposes, settled for retirement.
Maybe he thought that Sully's offer would give him the opportunity to show that he still had the ability, in which case it was a vanity project.
His playing style did not suit the squad that he had to work with and the high profile expensive players he bought for that style are now the ones that many on here want out.
I wonder what Moyes would have done with the £80m that Pelle used on Haller and Anderson. If his purchase of Bowen and Soucek are anything to go by he probably would have used it a little more effectively.
We all talk on here about giving players time to adapt to the EPL, but not many seem to apply that to managers. How many managers past and present in the EPL have hit the ground running and been an instant success in their first season? (Over to you Aslef
I love West Ham
I've enjoyed how we've played in or revival..
I still get frustrated that too many of our players,when we win back the ball,l turn over possession with wayward passes or hopeful punts, but mostly we are trying to pass and move, and looking quite good when we do. I can't imagine that it is down to luck that Antonio is showing a proper understanding of how to play as a main CF someone must have coached him.
Unfortunately, the reality of the situation was that Pelle wasn't able to cope with the standard of players at his disposal, especially when the chips were down. Moyes has come back in, steadied the boat, and will hopefully, over the next season or 2, provide the foundations to establish us as a solid top half team. Until we get new owners, that's the best we can realistically hope for; when we're there, we can be stable enough to have honest attempts at the cups and maybe challenge for the Europa League spots. I, for one, would gladly accept a few seasons of that rather than yet another relegation battle and fear that we'll lose any decent players we have to set us even further back from our ultimate destiny of ruling the galaxy.
I am very far from being a fan of Moyes, but on balance feel he deserves to see us into next season. Firstly because of the two outstanding buys in Bowen and Soucek (Assuming moyes found them) - the latter for me is looking like one of the best buys in the Sully era - without the break which allowed him to recover from injury, we could well have been sunk. Secondly because Moyes got us firing and delivering in the crucial post Covid period. And lastly because we are stuck with our owners (sadly), and therefore we cannot feasibly expect much more.
Next season for me (with the right buys), we will likely be 10th to 12th. Our squad is a mess with our most expensive players (plus wilshere) benched in recent games. That is not sustainable. And then we do have a problem when it comes to our keeper - I shudder to think how many points one or other of our keepers have cost us this season. Fab is on the wane, and Randy is not the future.
The club will likely meander along for the foreseeable - the next date to look forward to is 2023 when hopefully the Dave’s hand over to new owners with a better and clearer vision and strategy for moving forwards such as Wolves and Leicester. 25 years plus as owners of football clubs - they achieved little with Birmingham and it is looking like a carbon copy at West Ham.
But he was woeful, and has barely had a look in. Think that the idea will be move him on, but there may not he any offers so he will have to work with him
Johnson, Diop, Rice, Soucek, Bowen, Fornals, Diangana...
That’s the core of a very young side. All players 25 & under.
I would seriously be thinking about looking for buyers for Lanzini, Anderson & Haller (£60m). I think we could basically assemble a transfer budget from the sales of those three. I don’t massively rate Yarmo, but feel he has earned more of a right to stay around, given he has never played consistently, has had two serious injuries & yet continues to chip in with vital goals.
Equally, Moyes may decide he can get more out of Haller, Anderson, Lanzini next season, but in which case we will not be making any major signings this summer.
But I agree....i think Moyes has enough good to work with, with or without transfers
I also hope he persists with looking within to promote, like he did with Ngakia and Johnson
There are a few younger players who could be promoted to the first team this year (or next for a few of the younger ones) if for depth more than anything, Coventry, Cullen, Holland, Trott, Alese, Cordoso, Favrier, Baptiste, Diallo, Odubeko etc.
If they arent quite good enough (which is more likely than not) hopefully we can make a bit of money selling then on to Championship clubs
I don’t think we need ‘major’ signings - most turn out to be a bust for us anyway. I think we need more depth and a couple of upgrades in a couple of areas, and not a huge amount else.
IMO we have a good squad, we just didn’t use it correctly under Pellegrini when thinks started to go awry. I have hope that Moyes will be able to get more out of a lot of those players when we start again, as a lot of them are good players that just aren’t built for a scrap. There was some link up play between Yamolenko, Lanzini and Haller yesterday that showed just how good they all are, you just don’t get that in a relegation fight.
When I say ‘major’, I didn’t mean big money. Just more meaningful to the first 11.