Loaning him means we are the only party who don't get what we want. I see your point, but loaning him essentially means Marseille & Dimi cooked it all up and get their own way.
He hasn't refused to do his job. He "got a bit of a bad back". He's showing up for training. He's keeping his side of the deal -legally, if not honourably, and you can be sure it's the minimum needed to get paid -otherwise, he'd already be in Marseilles with his family.
My view is we should treat him as like a bad injury. If he broke his leg and was out the rest of the season he'd be unavailable and we'd be paying him.
I do wonder if this is beginning to impact our incomings ;hmm Did we assume we'd have £30m to play with by now? Fonte was a good (and necessary) signing, but with us seemingly unwilling to match Burnley's offer for Snodgrass and everything going quiet on the Hogan front, I'm starting we're waiting for the money that is currently tied up in Payet
People mention the 20m we didn't pay Juve for Zaza and we must have that, well that would've been installments.....
The books come out end of next month, all will be revealed, we lost between 5-10m last season, still have significant debt and owe SUGO 53m now most of it interest bearing (currently 9m rolled up).
We're effectively still skint. Once we get the extra 35m in TV money May 2018 along with extra ticket money taking our revenue to around 190M then we will start to see some changes in debt owed and players bought/money spent IMO
It was always a work in progress, some fans out there thought the minute we walked into the LS and then the transfer window opened we were suddenly "rich". (not necessarily on here I might add ;biggrin )
I don't blame us for not matching Burnley's bid, as I don't think Snodgrass is worth it (personally). The interview with the Brentford boss seems to suggest that the agent is holding up Hogan.
You could be right with that theory, but I reckon we'll have Hogan in before the City game
If we weren't at least a little bit liquid in terms of cash, why and how were the Dave's allegedly waving £40m plus in front of Lyon for Lacazette?
Perhaps it was £1m up front with the rest based on him scoring 30 plus goals a season for 5 seasons on the trot and winning the French presidential election a year later?
Just thinking about the Payet situation and not sure if this has been mentioned but as it's supposedly just about 'family reasons', would Marseille really want to spend £30 million on a player who doesn't really want to play for them and is just there to be close to his family?
Clacton - it is a point. What if the malaise he feels and (possibly) caused his poor performances for us is a permanent thing? What if he never plays like he did last season ever again? Lost the mojo?
For me another reason not to loan him. What if he plays dire, nobody will give us a big deal in the summer then.
He's going there for the sake of his kids and possibly his partner.....
Believe that is the family's current location, hence the rumours he'd take a pay cut to make it happen.
He's just gone about it really really badly as far as we can see, but the details around the family business could be that deep it probably had a lot to do with him going off the rails
Brooking the "loyalty" payment being banded about is basically his latest deal signing on fee broken down over different periods he doesn't owe us anything because when he was paid that he hadn't effectively downed tools
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They can't afford £30m now. They're currently the WBA of the French league. They might push to it in the summer and make him their marquee signing.
I can't believe for one moment that Dimi will be here come Feb.
By the time he's gone there'll only be a couple of days left of the window.
We can wait another 5 months.
If we can wait, then so can he, and so can they.
Loaning him means we are the only party who don't get what we want. I see your point, but loaning him essentially means Marseille & Dimi cooked it all up and get their own way.
The man has refused to do his job. Why would we be paying him?
My view is we should treat him as like a bad injury. If he broke his leg and was out the rest of the season he'd be unavailable and we'd be paying him.
Guess they won't be signing him then ;lol
Had Payet been sold already would we have Hogan now?
Yep it is, IMO
People mention the 20m we didn't pay Juve for Zaza and we must have that, well that would've been installments.....
The books come out end of next month, all will be revealed, we lost between 5-10m last season, still have significant debt and owe SUGO 53m now most of it interest bearing (currently 9m rolled up).
We're effectively still skint. Once we get the extra 35m in TV money May 2018 along with extra ticket money taking our revenue to around 190M then we will start to see some changes in debt owed and players bought/money spent IMO
It was always a work in progress, some fans out there thought the minute we walked into the LS and then the transfer window opened we were suddenly "rich". (not necessarily on here I might add ;biggrin )
I don't blame us for not matching Burnley's bid, as I don't think Snodgrass is worth it (personally). The interview with the Brentford boss seems to suggest that the agent is holding up Hogan.
You could be right with that theory, but I reckon we'll have Hogan in before the City game
If we weren't at least a little bit liquid in terms of cash, why and how were the Dave's allegedly waving £40m plus in front of Lyon for Lacazette?
Perhaps it was £1m up front with the rest based on him scoring 30 plus goals a season for 5 seasons on the trot and winning the French presidential election a year later?
Or a bigger payday (soon to be banned)
At least we tried...
For me another reason not to loan him. What if he plays dire, nobody will give us a big deal in the summer then.
Believe that is the family's current location, hence the rumours he'd take a pay cut to make it happen.
He's just gone about it really really badly as far as we can see, but the details around the family business could be that deep it probably had a lot to do with him going off the rails
IMO
From a players point of view Wednesday night away at Monaco or Wednesday night
away to Burnley ;hmm
Yes I know its a tough choice but one he needs to make ;lol
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