Match Thread - Away to Man U on Saturday 22nd January, 15:00

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Terrible to be in that position

Another late goal

Moyes has done wonders but this is a huge issue and questions need to start getting asked

alderz

Sorry, is Cavani really not offside?! All the replays I’ve just seen look offside

Yeoldhammer

Watching Villa take it to Man Utd then watching us offer nothing is so poor

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Looked offside? Didn’t even see the check?

Pengeman

Poor play from Fredericks. We did not deserve to lose. Lucky MANU. Can we finish in the top 6?

Slacker

Well that was a kick in the guts.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Doesn't matter if it was off or not to me (don't think it was offside)

But again...far from the first time....that we've been all at sea in the closing moments of a game to lose it

Something needs to be addressed

Top 7 is going to be very hard now, that's a massive result against us

OutcastLondoner

Why did he bring on Fredericks

chicagohammer

How come we were not given the VAR viewpoint, in every other instance we are shown the evidence, that looked off to me and if not, it was really close and worthy of a second look

buffybegood

Poor from Fredericks for the goal.

steve

Theres nothing to say just feel sick

PrestonHammer

Even after this, we still won't sign anyone.

Yeoldhammer

We didn't deserve anything either way. Falling down the league, performances of late have been shocking and apparently there are no better players out there to bring in ? find that hard to believe on the last few performances.

Slacker

OldCastleSwift said:

Once again, lack of options are hurting us. Not enough on the bench to make a positive impact. Antonio ineffectual in this second half (Footypass working; cheers eski) but no-one to change things up.

Antonio worked himself into the ground, he was up against a world class centre half and the only service he got were high balls up to him.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

We’ve been in a false position for a while because we’ve played most of our games. Really we are about 7th and we look like it.

Slacker

Well that was a kick in the guts.

Hamstew

Not bothered to much about losing if we don't deserve anything but that's gutting to lose at the end. Still can't find any conclusive evidence if it was off or on. Usually there are lines everywhere.

OldCastleSwift

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

Doesn't matter if it was off or not to me (don't think it was offside)

But again...far from the first time....that we've been all at sea in the closing moments of a game to lose it

Something needs to be addressed

Top 7 is going to be very hard now, that's a massive result against us

It's because we're hanging on. Because our players our knackered. Because we don't have enough on the bench to positively affect a game.

22 days into a transfer window when we knew months ago what the issues were, and we still haven't strengthened the squad.

Lukerz

Not too bothered about this result, the damage was done at home to Brentford, Leeds & Southampton. Take points from those & this is just a minor blip.

thornburyiron

Trouble is we concede far too many really late goals, we just don’t seem to know how to see games through. What on earth Fredericks was thinking I don’t know but even without that if Utd had got a third of their attempts on target they’d have won comfortably.
We moaned last week that Leeds had had a full week off before they played us but we had that luxury this week but still too many players seem off the pace. Rice and Bowen are the only ones who seem to keep going.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Man utd 2-1, Lingard 89th
Brentford 2-1, Wissa 93rd
Brighton 1-1, Maupay 89th
Man utd 1-0, Rashford 93rd

3 of our 8 loses we've lost in the 89th minute or later, plus the Brighton game where we drew from a winning position

Not good enough if we want to get Europa

Moyes needs to work on his game management, and if he doesn't trust his squad to see out a game then he needs to buy players he does if he wants to really have a chance of top 4 which he says in his press conferences

Still a great season but does have a feeling that europa could be a struggle now (especially as Wolves are doing very well)

Lukerz

Nobody deserved to win, it was an even & pretty bland game, they got the break at the end, 0-0 would have been the fair result

Last Sunday’s game was the issue

jay_in_cpt

Not great to lose like that, becoming a thing again, like the old West Ham..just BIZARRE why no replays of goal/ guess it wasn't offdside, but it would have been normal to have seen it shown...just odd, wierd...IMO

OldCastleSwift

Slacker said:

OldCastleSwift said:

Once again, lack of options are hurting us. Not enough on the bench to make a positive impact. Antonio ineffectual in this second half (Footypass working; cheers eski) but no-one to change things up.

Antonio worked himself into the ground, he was up against a world class centre half and the only service he got were high balls up to him.

Yeah, worked himself into the ground. So could have done with being replaced with fresh legs. As was the case v Leeds. And another dozen games this season.

He needs help, and has done for a year now. The fact that we have to run him into the ground each game is not acceptable, IMO.

Hamstew

Everyone behind us is catching and we'll soon be down to 7th/8th. All because Dave is dithering.

Hamstew

And the goal looks onside to me

alderz

Any striker that can run about a bit and hold up the ball would be worth bringing in now. Antonio needs to come off when he’s out of gas, or we just lump it forward and see it come back immediately. We need the out ball and when he’s out of puff it’s just non existent

OldCastleSwift

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

Man utd 2-1, Lingard 89th
Brentford 2-1, Wissa 93rd
Brighton 1-1, Maupay 89th
Man utd 1-0, Rashford 93rd

3 of our 8 loses we've lost in the 89th minute or later, plus the Brighton game where we drew from a winning position

Not good enough if we want to get Europa

Moyes needs to work on his game management, and if he doesn't trust his squad to see out a game then he needs to buy players he does if he wants to really have a chance of top 4 which he says in his press conferences

Still a great season but does have a feeling that europa could be a struggle now (especially as Wolves are doing very well)

Exactly this. Moyes' transfer record gets defended a lot, but he clearly doesn't trust two of his main signings.

To me, that's quite a big problem.

Slacker

OldCastleSwift said:

Slacker said:

OldCastleSwift said:

Once again, lack of options are hurting us. Not enough on the bench to make a positive impact. Antonio ineffectual in this second half (Footypass working; cheers eski) but no-one to change things up.

Antonio worked himself into the ground, he was up against a world class centre half and the only service he got were high balls up to him.

Yeah, worked himself into the ground. So could have done with being replaced with fresh legs. As was the case v Leeds. And another dozen games this season.

He needs help, and has done for a year now. The fact that we have to run him into the ground each game is not acceptable, IMO.

That wasn’t the problem, the problem was the service.

Lukerz

You need to show bravery in these games. We don’t. We sit in our shape & hope to pick up scraps on the counter. You get what you deserve when you are just happy to sit in your shape.