The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

They can’t stop telling porkies......

ASLEFshrugged

More likely they thought saying they would appoint a DoF sounded impressive and would go down well with the fans before they'd actually bothered asking Moyes his opinion on the proposal.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Probably, or it was just a “move” to quieten the discontented fans around the time
Of proposed marches and fan meets

MrsGrey

That quote doesn't actually say that a Director of Football would be appointed.


And I don't in any case think changing a plan after further thought and discussion means that the original plan was a lie, necessarily.

Yeoldhammer

Hope there is a protest at the last home game of the season regardless of the league we will be in next season.

OutcastLondoner

You mean from the minutes? I don’t see how that doesn’t say they will appoint a DoF. And any way it might be interpreted otherwise would be more dishonest than just changing the decision.

IronHerb

I’m not convinced fans wanted a DOF. They just wanted Sullivan out of the loop, especially in player selection.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Don't trust Moyes much more than Sully tbf...don't think his transfer record inspires confidence

But long term Sully needed to get away from it

baracks_a_hammer

It will always revolve around Sully. A DoF is just a different person to where the blame can be deflected when it goes wrong. They were quick to mock Slav getting snodgrass and Fonte, however for all we know Slav might have wanted other better quality players but Sully might have refused to pay what was required. After all that is exactly what happened in the case of Carvalho

MIAHammer

Wenger is available ;whistle

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Moyes is probably about the best we can hope for right now, I really hope he does "An EFC" but it's going to be tough, funny we've gone from the owners spouting "Champions league football", "Move will help us close the gap to the next level", to the manager now proclaiming "I'd like to get us consistently top 10"......

Will be interesting to see how much he will have to play with, I'd be surprised if it's over 30m

Cuz1

I’d say to turn the squad round with better balance it’s 50 million he needs and that doesn’t include sales generated cash will he get or not in my lifetime

ClaretandBlueforLife

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

Moyes is probably about the best we can hope for right now, I really hope he does "An EFC" but it's going to be tough, funny we've gone from the owners spouting "Champions league football", "Move will help us close the gap to the next level", to the manager now proclaiming "I'd like to get us consistently top 10"......

Will be interesting to see how much he will have to play with, I'd be surprised if it's over 30m

Personally I think the manager has more grip on our reality than our owners/board. I think it was ridiculous of the board to make such a statement.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

They felt they had to sell the move, theybe made some outrageous statements since they arrived.

I honestly believe if they’d been a bit more realistic they'd get more respect from the fans and less hassle.

Trouble is they were blinded by the need to sell 57k seats at all costs.....otherwise immediately the move is questioned, they’ve not held up their end of the bargain though, where is the 40m a season net spend, add to that wasting untold and taking their interest while not doing enough in the last 4 Windows, you reap what you sow

Moojor

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

Moyes is probably about the best we can hope for right now, I really hope he does "An EFC" but it's going to be tough, funny we've gone from the owners spouting "Champions league football", "Move will help us close the gap to the next level", to the manager now proclaiming "I'd like to get us consistently top 10"......

Will be interesting to see how much he will have to play with, I'd be surprised if it's over 30m

for us constant top 10 is the next step.

ClaretandBlueforLife

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

They felt they had to sell the move, theybe made some outrageous statements since they arrived.

I honestly believe if they’d been a bit more realistic they'd get more respect from the fans and less hassle.

Trouble is they were blinded by the need to sell 57k seats at all costs.....otherwise immediately the move is questioned, they’ve not held up their end of the bargain though, where is the 40m a season net spend, add to that wasting untold and taking their interest while not doing enough in the last 4 Windows, you reap what you sow

Not sure if they were discounting seats to fill the new stadium, which I thought they would have to do in any event that they’d raise anywhere near the sort of revenue to give a 40 million surplus for transfers, sounds like pie in the sky thinking imo.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

They were pretty clear that the move should generate 10-12m more a season than the Boleyn which was around 26m and Gold has always claimed the ticket money was the transfer kitty

Either way they fell well short

ClaretandBlueforLife

Agree they fell well sort but I think they would have said anything to sell the move to the fans & SAB.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Unfortunately yes, all they had to do was be a bit more realistic, they’ve dug their own hole with some of the things they’ve come out with. That being said my pet peeve is when fans say they were promised next level and world class players...

NO YOU WEREN’T!!!

Pearces_Left_Foot

Maybe the factored in get a percentage of naming rights which the lddc or who ever have still not managed to sell

ClaretandBlueforLife

Adam,
I think over time and with improved performances from the team taking us nearer to the level we’d like us to be at, prices will be hiked and discounts removed.

buffybegood

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

That being said my pet peeve is when fans say they were promised next level and world class players...

NO YOU WEREN’T!!!

Erm, Brady definitely said something about world class players for a world class stadium.

I suppose she is wrong on 2 counts then ;whistle

Fortuneseeker

dee,

Possibly not but it depends if you have a large enough group pf players to try to sign from surely a few must come off? We don't appear to do that. ;ok

buffybegood

deehammer said:

She said that we should be able to attract top class players with a larger capacity ground
Is it the board's fault that we couldn't?

Well, if the board won't pay for them, then yes, it's the board's fault. Let's be honest, we were stitched up over the move, there is just no denying it.

baracks_a_hammer

To me (and I know many won’t agree), this feels like deja vu of the Zola season where we just about survived. Consistently not good enough yet will probably survive with a pretty underwhelming points tally. To many that might seem to be acceptable to keep Moyes on (ie surviving in the PL) however I am not of that view. We’ve had countless opportunities to pull ourselves above 40 points yet have blown it time and again, to the extent that we find ourselves agonising over not holding out for a point v Arsenal. It should never have come to this.

ClaretandBlueforLife

barracks,
Agree Moyes should be given another season to stamp his authority on the club, too often it is about muppets like Sullivan who is at both a muppet and an embarrassment to our club.

ASLEFshrugged

deehammer said:

She said that we should be able to attract top class players with a larger capacity ground
Is it the board's fault that we couldn't?

Its the boards fault for saying it because its absolute nonsense.

If the key to attracting top class players was a big stadium then Queen's Park would be the most successful club in Scottish football history and Charlton Athletic would have been a top flight club up until 1985

ClaretandBlueforLife

Unless Brady was meaning with a bigger stadium and increased revenue from larger capacity? Either way it didn’t really happen.

jay_in_cpt

Moyes must leave at the end of the season ...
If he stays tbh I'll be gutted, even tho I will give the team and him
My support while he is here.. when he was mentioned before joining I thought it was really a sick joke.
While he has done sort of ok but certainly no more , we are still in a relegation battle & he IMO is not the person to be our manager next season, regardless of our league we in.
It'll be a thanks & cheers for me

baracks_a_hammer

I’d have to agree Jay

We limply went out of the carabao cup

We were humbled in the FA cup

The defefensive record since he joined is not a lot better than slav’s

His win percentage is in the 20s and lower than both Macari and grant

I’m struggling to see a compelling case for keeping him beyond this season