The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

SuzanneClaret

Oh no! Not cheep journalism!

IronHerb

"the club are already expected to be searching"

I don't really know what that means. ;puzzled

Cuz1

Conte will be available

Vorselaarhammer

There are no facts in in that article, there isn’t even any smoke with witch they are basing a fire...

Bizzare...

ASLEFshrugged

Vorselaarhammer said:

there isn’t even any smoke with witch they are basing a fire...

To be honest I would be surprised if Moyes left at the end of the season, three months at West Ham should be enough for him to realise that Sullivan, Gold and Brady are always going to be a significant hindrance to managing the team

baracks_a_hammer

Cuz1 said:

I’m afraid if Moyes doesn’t like the transfer policy Benitez won’t either probably even more so

There’s a transfer policy???

Cuz1

Sorry barracks almost believed in it myself lol

Pearces_Left_Foot

The media sense blood in the water at West Ham at the moment and doom stories like this are easy lazy journalism.

Pearces_Left_Foot

West Ham have issued a statement refuting the Telegraph's story

grey_til_I_dye

"The club would like to place on record that it categorically refutes the claims made by the Daily Telegraph regarding manager David Moyes.

"There is absolutely no truth whatsoever to this story. As previously stated on a number of occasions, the club and David Moyes agreed a deal until the end of the 2017-18 season, at which point both parties will sit down and discuss the future.

"Until then, the board and David Moyes will continue to work closely together with the manager having full responsibility of footballing matters and the full support of the board. Everyone’s sole focus is on trying to achieve results for West Ham United."

ianbishoplegend

I am interested in seeing the squad he would build over the summer.

IronHerb

They wold wouldn’t they? But I happen to believe them on this occasion.

Cuz1

I don’t care either way anymore

Hammerdublin

I don't believe such stories, they are easy to make up. And I don't understand this 'don't care either way' attitude. This is a difficult time, and the best we can do is give this club as much support as we can.

MrsGrey

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/february/07-february/moyes-manager-month-prize

Moyes up for PL manager of the month. ;clap ;scarf

Moojor

MrsGrey said:

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/february/07-february/moyes-manager-month-prize

Moyes up for PL manager of the month. ;clap ;scarf

nooooo...the curse....

thornburyiron

The curse seemed to start before the nominations had been announced.

baracks_a_hammer

I think the nomination should belong to me personally

Huttonhammer

I think Mr Moyes has done better than expected since joining and has carried himself much better than he did at Sunderland , Man utd etc when being interviewed and in his general demeanour.
He was given a very tough job at probably the worst run club in the Premier league and whatever happens to us at the end of the season I wouldn’t hold him responsible at all.
There is a horrible undercurrent surrounding this club but that is not of our managers doing it is down to our board.

claretandbluesky

I agree, I think he has done the best he could given the circumstances, I think players are producing better performances individually and are collectively better organised. I especially like how he speaks as he doesn't provide spin and doesn't over react.

I hope he is on a whopping bonus to keep us up and I hope he gets it, for our sake and for himself.

alderz

As some of you know, I keep an Excel workbook with a load of West Ham stuff in, just cos I'm a cool guy.

This is a screenshot of our league points for this season vs last. The vertical line shows the point that Moyes was appointed (12th game). What I found interesting when looking at this, was that we were in an almost identical situation last season as this when we made a managerial change (11pts last year, 9pts this).

Then, after 15 games, we started to pick up form, and over the Autumn / Winter period we effectively saved our season. Last year, after 15 games we had 13pts, and after 27 games we had 33. This year, after 15 games we had 10pts, and after 27 games we have 30.

We then picked up 12pts in our remaining 11 games.



So, bearing this in mind, and given the fact that two different managers have presided over an upturn in form in the middle section of the season, in successive seasons, with largely the same players, could it be that the players application and form has improved when we have fallen into dire straights, table wise? What impact has a change in manager actually had? And would we have seen a similar upturn in points had Slaven Bilic remained in charge?

imagelost

Don’t think so alderz, our fitness was was joke,,, I suspect the only place we was going,was down,,;doc Moyes has saved our season

OldCastleSwift

Obviously we'll never know, but I suspect not. We looked utterly lost under Slav at the end, whereas under Moyes it looks like we have a plan and an identity, at least.

alderz

For the record, I'm not saying whether or not I think that is the case. I am just showing the similarities in our seasons, and demonstrating that the manager last year managed to turn things around at the exact point that the manager this year has managed to.

FWIW, my opinion is that Bilic would have hit a purple patch and would have improved us. However, I believe that the football under Moyes this season has been far more entertaining than under Bilic last season, and I feel more confident in our long term future with Moyes at the helm than I did with Bilic. I believe that we have a better chance of not repeating the same poor start next year should Moyes be in charge, than had we kept Slav.

Lukerz

Alderz ;ok good work

I think what it might point to is perhaps more emphasis needs to be put onto pre-season this coming campaign. It seems we have been slow out the traps the past two seasons.

MrsGrey

alderz ;cool

SuzanneClaret

#StatGod ;bowdown

ianbishoplegend

Although we picked up points under Bilic, I feel Moyes has actually got much more from players than Bilic ever did. Ogbonna, Masuaku, Arnie, Hernandez, Creswell, Adrian are all
Performing on a different level. Could also say that Lanzinis Huddersfield display was one of his best. Bilic was very good at isolating players, even Payet was poor in his second season stuck out in the left with no imagination. I felt like Bilic planning and application was very lazy at times. So was Moyes at Brighton etc, but he seems to have a much sharper learning curve than Bilic

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Think last season was a little bit different imo, mostly because of how bad Sunderland, Boro and Hull were and we one against each of them once. Also we seemed to pick up our points in groups, remember picking up 3 wins on the trot around Christmas and 9 points out of 12 at the end of Jan/feb

Also I remember a lot of the wins under Bilic were less than convincing and very rarely did I think we were unlucky or played well like we have under Moyes

I also think that the constant relegation battling took a lot out of Bilic, he just looked like a man beaten this year whereas last year he at least seemed strong mentally

He may has succeeded but personally think it wasn't going to turn around anytime soon

MarkNobleLocalHero

Under Bilic this season points per game = 0.8 compared with Moyes 1.3

Under Bilic this season win % 18.2 compared with Moyes 31.3

IMO no comparison