The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

OldCastleSwift

But a good coach does do a great Dutch accent

chicagohammer

I think the trick to success is to keep your career within your competency level, many people get promoted just beyond it ;wink

chicagohammer

C&B I have to admire your williness to embrace optimism and make no mistake, I too will be watching the game on Sunday with a keen sense of anticipation, bordering on, dare I say it, excitement.




;scarf coyi ;scarf

alderz

c&b sky

I think that you are right about where Irvine, Pearce & McKinley's next managerial job was going to come, but then, we haven't appointed any of them as manager. Some people try to step up to management, but are cut out for being coaches, and that's what I think for those three.

And, as you point out, Sunderland are at the bottom of the Championship. That is a club in severe crisis, with extremely low quality footballers, owned by a man who doesn't seem to care what happens. The fact that Simon Grayson, a man who is pretty well respected at that level, couldn't revitalise them in any way following relegation tells me that Moyes was onto a hiding last season, whatever he did

Cuz1

Big Sam managed to keep them up, only reason I bring this up is hes pulled out the race for Everton job according to sky sources and I don’t blame him, they wanted him to keep them up on a six month contract,surely anyone who achieved that deserves two years after to push on

Vorselaarhammer

A min Video on FB of some intense on the ball training, all the new coaches involved..

Words like “Fight for it”, “work” and “Tidy with your passes”....

claretandbluesky

I think Sam has a cracking situation going in that he takes holiday between June and December, then signs on to put out a fire for the other six months on a massive bonus. I actually feel that Sunderland and Palace would have likely gone down both seasons without him. I think on the posts of working to your strengths his is perfect for the role he has been playing in that he can take a bunch of underperforming players and organise them and instil in them discipline to defend properly and begin to pick up vital points.

SuzanneClaret

I just don't think you can judge Moyes on the 'job' he did at Sunderland.

The club its an ocean going fur lined cluster cods up.

OldCastleSwift

I'll judge him on what I see on the pitch on Sunday.

And I'm feeling rather optimistic.

Imagine West Ham not ruining your weekend ;hmm

Weird, innit?

Cuz1

When he took over us we were in a bad place too, until he and Nolan United us,not going back over it but that was the thanks they got from the club and fans and from a lot on here, undeserved in my own honest opinion we’re certainly no better off,since as are a lot of clubs he’s left

SuzanneClaret

OldCastleSwift said:

I'll judge him on what I see on the pitch on Sunday.

And I'm feeling rather optimistic.

Imagine West Ham not ruining your weekend ;hmm

Weird, innit?

SuzanneClaret

According to West Ham Instagram..

"The U23s have come up to Rush Green to train with us and I hope that's the way it stays. I've been told about one or two and a couple have caught my eye" David Moyes.

OldCastleSwift

Which suggests the U23s trained separately under SB. Which in turn could explain why the youth weren't given much of an opportunity ;hmm

With Hernandez out of the Watford game, could Martinez make the bench?

alderz

I don't think it suggests that necessarily. They might always have done that but he's just saying it's something he likes.

NEoldiron

Chicago, a bit like this, you mean ;wink

The Peter principle is a concept in management theory formulated by educator Laurence J. Peter and published in 1969. It states that the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in their current role, rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence".

OldCastleSwift

alderz said:

I don't think it suggests that necessarily. They might always have done that but he's just saying it's something he likes.

Possibly. Just sounded to me like it was something new ;ok

SuzanneClaret

That’s what I thought, Which is why I posted it.

MrsGrey

I just wonder how feasible it is to run training with the full senior squad and all the U23s... That's a lot of bodies. How many training pitches are there at Rush Green, and does he mean train 'with' us or 'alongside' us? ;hmm

SuzanneClaret

I think there are 4 pitches at Rush Green and from the photos it looks like a joint training session for the most part.

MrsGrey

;ok

I'm just not clear if this latest comment is announcing a totally separate thing (and a radical new approach) to the comment he made some days ago about some of the U23s training with the squad while a dozen or so seniors are injured or on international duty. And there were pictures of that, of course.

Edit: I see from the fuller article on the club site They’ve trained with us every day since I’ve been here because the numbers are down and we wanted to train with decent size numbers. The U23s have come up to Rush Green to train with us and I hope that’s the way it will stay.

I’ve been told about one or two and a couple of others have caught my eye. Really those young boys need to be given opportunities.

Read more at http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/november/14-november/one-or-two-u23s-players-have-caught-my-eye-moyes#uAdzILqqwLdJXG0P.99

I'm none the wiser, really ;lol

'given opportunities' could mean anything ... doesn't necessarily mean he'll give them match time.

Vorselaarhammer

A picture of our new brain trust.

OldCastleSwift

Vorselaarhammer said:

Westlife have let themselves go

IronHerb

I think their combined age is still less than the age of the previous fitness coach.

MrsGrey

I think that the first team fitness coach is very young. Isn't he the assistant manager of the Women's team?

buffybegood

IronHerb said:

I think their combined age is still less than the age of the previous fitness coach.

I used to play club hockey, a friend (a defender) said in one match the other 3 members of the back 4 totalled over 200 ;nonono

They were still quicker than our current midfield ;lol

NEoldiron

Vorse,
Was that a spelling mistake or was it deliberately singular ;biggrin

"our new brain trust"

IronHerb

MrsGrey said:

I think that the first team fitness coach is very young. Isn't he the assistant manager of the Women's team?

Miljenko Rak (born 1947) is a Croatian former long-jumper and fitness trainer. He has worked as the trainer for the Croatia national handball team and with Olympic gold medal winning skier, Janica Kostelić, and football manager, Slaven Bilic.

Bazshuayi

Ahhhhhhh.... No I see what the problem was! Rak got our hands fit but not our legs!

Bazshuayi

Please note. now Moyes is manager, that I left out any sexist girl talk out of my original posting as '#nice Rak' didnt seem appropriate ;run

MrsGrey

Herb ;ok

I was thinking of this

The winger has praised manager De Carnys, assistant – and first-team fitness coach – Josh Ewens


Read more at http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/november/09-november/burr-relishing-new-ladies-responsibility#UtzC0yTq1PefptHc.99