Newcastle v West Ham Saturday April 17 @ 12:30 (on SKY )

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  • HamstewHamstew
    edited April 2021
    What a shame. A couple of the players really let everyone down today I think. But we've still had a great season. Our squad is really suffering atm.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Nil points, Pride intact as per Mr Beglin on co comm's...have to agree...
    Already said , our defending has gone a bit downhill, and if Lingard is now injured....not good...
  • LukerzLukerz
    Can’t be unhappy with the spirit shown. Deserved a point out of that 100%. Played miles better today than our last six games.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited April 2021
    Too many key players out and it has caught up with us

    Still think we could do with looking for a new number one keeper
  • ScotHammerScotHammer
    To look on the bright side were all over them in the 2nd half with 10 men. I personally will be happy to see Balbuena back - feel morale secure with him and Ogbonna .
  • alderzalderz
    I still think the biggest mistake of the game was the initial tactic. You saw in the second half what happens to Newcastle when they’re put under any kind of pressure, so to play the first half so passively was a huge mistake by the manager. Obviously he can’t account for those mistakes, but we were never going to win with that approach
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited April 2021
    alderz said:

    I still think the biggest mistake of the game was the initial tactic. You saw in the second half what happens to Newcastle when they’re put under any kind of pressure, so to play the first half so passively was a huge mistake by the manager. Obviously he can’t account for those mistakes, but we were never going to win with that approach

    Yep, once we took out one of the 3 needless CBs (well Dawson did it himself) we were miles better.
  • LukerzLukerz
    I also think Fab should have done better with all 3 goals.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited April 2021
    The tactics meant it was a matter of time until a mistake or moment of brilliance from ASM. Hopefully Moyes learns from that and after Cheslea we use Benrahma or Lanzini to get the ball moving more incisively. Lingard doesn't offer that.
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited April 2021
    Next week is going to be tough. Players out, the rest playing all over the shop, defence looking iffy. Not good.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Should have kept me on match threads. This is very messy football.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Fab needs to save that third goal for me
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Lukerz said:

    Fab needs to save that third goal for me

    Fab needs to save that 2nd goal I think...
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Sometimes you need your keeper to come to the fore and help preserve point(s). I can’t remember the last time Fab actually did that for us.
  • Brother_SledgeBrother_Sledge
    Fab dropping the ball for the second was horrific but the corner came because the ball hit the corner flag and went the wrong way - small margins make footy the game I love and that was an exciting watch. Great effort from our boys - so much better than damage limitation - just not our day, but we have had a few this season.
  • HamstewHamstew
    I thought we'd lose to Leicester and beat Newcastle with Europa being our more realistic target so meh. Our injuries and poor defending is more of a concern for me.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    It’ll be so sweeter beating Chelsea than Newcastle anyway 🤪🤪⚒️⚒️
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    alderz, the same passive approach DM used v Manchester United at Old Trafford twice this season! The season so far has been a good one, can’t assess it properly until it’s completed. I would like to say more but am very disappointed and will feel even more so if we throw away a golden opportunity to achieve something by being typically “West Ham”.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited April 2021
    I think that Dawson moment has been coming for a while. He has got away with it previously but there were signs. He has been excellent given his ability but there have been signs of an error for a while & today it basically cost us the game. Think Ogbonna will be back in now & Diop may well keep his place longer term if he does well against Chelsea.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Not convinced by Johnson doesn't seem prem standard to me.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I think this was the match the injuries told. I don't feel that performance or result would would have been what it was were Rice and Cresswell playing. Cresswell maybe missed more than Antonio even. Johnson has potential no doubt but he is not ready yet, he is a sub not a starter.

    It's not lost yet but it does mean Chelsea is a must win when really we needed the win today to allow for the result going against us next week.

    The pace of Maximin was too much for Dawson and we needed Rice to match class for class. Now Ogbonna is back I am not too sad about Dawson not being available next week as I think a quality team like Chelsea would give him another dose of today. He has stepped in brilliantly and let no one down, but I feel his limitation has been becoming more apparent these last few games.

    Let's see what we can come up with by way of response next week.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    The header for the third goal was a direct result of Johnson not up for it but it’s easier to blame fab though after earlier mistakes, bad start up tactics, bad day at the office but because Newcastle below us doesn’t mean today’s game was a shoe in,
  • LukerzLukerz
    End of the day, Chelsea will beat Brighton, so even had we won today, it would come down to us getting a result next week. A loss to Chelsea would put them above us even if we had won today. That game is now the key game & I feel we’re going to need to ensure we get a point from it at least.
  • LukerzLukerz
    But overall, poor first half which culminated in sloppy errors from a sloppy performance all round. Great character & quality second half & deservedly level at 2-2. Then more sloppy defending after we got level. We move on. We’re still 4th for now. 6 games to go.
  • SlackerSlacker
    That’s why I rarely post until the games over.
    We weren’t that bad in the first half apart from the two defensive clangers and in the second we were really unlucky to lose after a great comeback with ten men.We showed a lot of fight for a team without two or three of our best players to get back to 2-2 and it was a real kick in the guts to concede the third. Coufal was my m o m.

  • LukerzLukerz
    Our final 5 games give us every chance. 15 points to play for in those, plus a bonus game of Chelsea next week. We’ll have Rice back for a few of those final 5, plus Masuaku & Cresswell. Hopefully Antonio too.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    Tbh I thought we were due a defeat, riding our luck for the past 3 games and I would rather it came v Newcastle than a direct competitor.
    Chelsea and Leicester still play one another so we still have everything to play for. Don't lose next week and then kepp a push going.

    Diop has now scored 3 goals in 2 games, 1 disallowed, 1 og and one for us. Does that count as a perfect hattrick?
  • yoyoyoyo
    There was always going to be a slip up before seasons end. Most of us didn't necessarily see it being this one. A win against Chelsea and we're back in it. A few childish mistakes is really all it was. A lack of a cutting edge up front maybe, but next game now is massive. Keep the faith ( although admittedly mine waned a bit at 2-0 )
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    When I had the Champions League pic we conceded 3 goals without reply. When I had the Europa League pic we scored 2 without reply.

    I'll take the blame for this one, guys.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Might be without Lingard / Antonio / Rice / Cresswell / Masuaku for Chelsea.
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