I don’t think he will be afforded much patience. He is a firefighter at the end of the day. He will be expected to deliver pretty much immediately (in terms of pulling us right away from the drop zone). Especially as he knows the set up and most of the squad.
We would be lucky to have a player of Fellaini’s standard in our midfield. He would be one of the best centre mids we have had for years.
I don’t know what my football standards are if he’s one of the best we’ve had in years to be honest and if we were lucky to have him I wish us no luck at all
I completely disagree with this appointment on all levels. I accepted a change was probably needed but this is not the appointment I would have wanted us to go anywhere near.
However, to contribute something other than doom & gloom, the Premier League has several underwhelming managers who are currently doing a half-decent job at their current clubs:
Steve Bruce Nigel Pearson Chris Wilder Sean Dyche
None of those are ‘exotic’ names, but all have done steady jobs so far with their current clubs.
Pellegrini struggled with getting a consistent tune out of the side. Moyes won’t revolutionise our attacking play or our defending, he may just make us a tad more consistent.
When we defended well under Pelle, we were excellent, especially when utilising the high line. We kept clean sheets against Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd (plus games where we only conceded once against the likes of City & Liverpool). When we did it, when the mentality was right, we did it well.
Geezer is gonna have to hit the ground running. Still sounds like it's gonna be a blood bath v Bournemouth.
Can you explain why it could be a bloodbath?
I mean the noises on twitter from the usual lot seem to be planning some sort of protest like what happened v Burnley. Don't get me wrong I hope not as I was at that game which completely ruined my eldest sons football experience. One that turned him off football. Just saying what I'm reading on twitter.
Wow, no wonder they all laugh at us. Would you read some of your comments back to yourselves. I said earlier that we're in fire-fighting mode and no high-profile manager would want to take over and risk their reputation. Someone mentioned Steve Bruce is doing well - but if he had been available before he went to the Barcodes would you have been happy. I don't think so given all the ridicule he's had on this forum in the past. MP was taking us down and he had to go and unfortunately Klopp and Pep are otherwise engaged. Give Moyes the same amount of rope that we gave MP before we start calling for all their heads. :scarf: :scarf:
I think he will get one of the shortest honeymoon periods in management history and will need to hit the ground running, I think he needs three points at Bournemouth and to comfortably see off Gillingham to dampen down potential unrest.
One good thing is that at least Pelle isn't picking the cup team. Part of me felt that even with Fabianski back he would have still played Roberto. I will be amazed if Moyes doesn't put out a full strength team as elimination from the cup in his second game in charge will not go down well.
I think you are selling wilder and Pearson a little short
Wilder just seems to be getting better and better season by season. Obviously remains to be seen how he does in 2020
And IMO it was Pearson who pretty much built Leicester’s title winning side - at the time of his sacking following Ostrich-gate he had won 7 and drawn 1 of his last 9 league games.
I wouldn’t put either of these two in the same category as Bruce
Moyes, not my 1st choice. But decision made now. So I shall be going to match as usual on Wednesday and will give manager and team my full support. Pellegrine, I wish him well. I think he is to much of a Mr nice guy.
I think he will get one of the shortest honeymoon periods in management history and will need to hit the ground running, I think he needs three points at Bournemouth and to comfortably see off Gillingham to dampen down potential unrest.
One good thing is that at least Pelle isn't picking the cup team. Part of me felt that even with Fabianski back he would have still played Roberto. I will be amazed if Moyes doesn't put out a full strength team as elimination from the cup in his second game in charge will not go down well.
Oh i think Gillingham will turn us over....I think West Ham are about to see what a real Haller / Antonio can do up front as a two.
I think people need to have a reality check. We are in a tight relegation battle and need someone who can get us out of it. Moyes fits the bill as he did it before. We are not an attractive proposition for so called top managers and Pelle was obtained while he was out to grass in China. I’m in my seventies and all the time I’ve been supporting them we’ve had a bigger reputation for being a soft touch than for playing attractive football. How many times do we crop up in stats for someone scoring more goals against us than any other team or losing points from winning positions. Even Greenwood recognised it and bought John Cushley to, as he put it, add some steel to the defence. However if you remember him he was so bow legged he could be nutmegged standing to attention.
I do understand the air of gloom, but before Fab got injured we took 12 points from 7 games (including our traditional tonking from Citeh. I don't think it will take the Moyesiah too long to get us back to that form.
Moyes can not afford many slip ups IMO. And that includes in the cup. I don’t think a cup loss v Gillingham will be in any way be acceptable. The Wigan humiliation came under his watch last time round. It’s less of an issue were we to get beaten by another PL team..
I think it’s a major problem that our director of football is sacked alongside the manager. I’m not saying Husillos was right but what’s the point of the position then? We’re not going to get a change of new owners but we need someone who can actually plan the future of this club and work smartly with the resources we have, so that managers and transfers work towards something. Right now it’s been so ad-hoc and has been for years. I can’t think of a better example of our terrible planning than Moyes not being deemed good enough 18 months ago and now being made our manager.
Moyes was not top of my list but Pelle has only averaged a point a game this season. I am sure Moyes can do better than that if we can get a few changes of players
No idea how accurate it is, but there was a suggestion Moyes wanted a bigger say re: transfers. I don't mind that if it is true, and if it is code for "I'm not having the Sullivans playing football manager with my squad," then I love it.
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However, I wish Moyes well.
Better than Pulis
I don’t think he will be afforded much patience. He is a firefighter at the end of the day. He will be expected to deliver pretty much immediately (in terms of pulling us right away from the drop zone). Especially as he knows the set up and most of the squad.
However, to contribute something other than doom & gloom, the Premier League has several underwhelming managers who are currently doing a half-decent job at their current clubs:
Steve Bruce
Nigel Pearson
Chris Wilder
Sean Dyche
None of those are ‘exotic’ names, but all have done steady jobs so far with their current clubs.
It’s not always the best name, but the right fit.
Like I say, I hope you're right, but it was West Ham with very little to spend, or no job at all, IMO.
When we defended well under Pelle, we were excellent, especially when utilising the high line. We kept clean sheets against Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd (plus games where we only conceded once against the likes of City & Liverpool). When we did it, when the mentality was right, we did it well.
I was at that game as well, blooming stupid imo.
I hope it doesn’t come to that on Wednesday.
I said earlier that we're in fire-fighting mode and no high-profile manager would want to take over and risk their reputation.
Someone mentioned Steve Bruce is doing well - but if he had been available before he went to the Barcodes would you have been happy. I don't think so given all the ridicule he's had on this forum in the past.
MP was taking us down and he had to go and unfortunately Klopp and Pep are otherwise engaged.
Give Moyes the same amount of rope that we gave MP before we start calling for all their heads.
:scarf: :scarf:
One good thing is that at least Pelle isn't picking the cup team. Part of me felt that even with Fabianski back he would have still played Roberto. I will be amazed if Moyes doesn't put out a full strength team as elimination from the cup in his second game in charge will not go down well.
I think you are selling wilder and Pearson a little short
Wilder just seems to be getting better and better season by season. Obviously remains to be seen how he does in 2020
And IMO it was Pearson who pretty much built Leicester’s title winning side - at the time of his sacking following Ostrich-gate he had won 7 and drawn 1 of his last 9 league games.
I wouldn’t put either of these two in the same category as Bruce
Pellegrine, I wish him well. I think he is to much of a Mr nice guy.
"I've missed being here because I really enjoyed it and I feel like I've got unfinished business, so I can't wait to get started."
Geezer has a point to prove. I think he will do just that.
We are not an attractive proposition for so called top managers and Pelle was obtained while he was out to grass in China.
I’m in my seventies and all the time I’ve been supporting them we’ve had a bigger reputation for being a soft touch than for playing attractive football. How many times do we crop up in stats for someone scoring more goals against us than any other team or losing points from winning positions.
Even Greenwood recognised it and bought John Cushley to, as he put it, add some steel to the defence. However if you remember him he was so bow legged he could be nutmegged standing to attention.
No idea how accurate it is, but there was a suggestion Moyes wanted a bigger say re: transfers. I don't mind that if it is true, and if it is code for "I'm not having the Sullivans playing football manager with my squad," then I love it.