If that’s true I can’t understand why the question was asked in the first place.. Surely the focus should have been entirely on the shambles this evening caused in a large part to his selection and tactics or lack thereof.
Why is it that every time the club does something different to the way people would have chosen to do it (and bearing in mind that not all of the facts/issues are available to the public) it is a shambles/joke?
I want to see Arnie in our team, fired up and firing.
If the club have managed to ensure that, that's excellent news, imo.
I find it very hard to be neagtive about the fact that we have given ourselves a better chance of keeping the best forward (imo) we've had since Deano.
I’ve seen where Pelle refused to talk about Arnie’s contract and the question was raised after he’d said he was ashamed of the team and the performance so not the right time.
A new 5 year deal would have taken him up to 34. Effectively, he's signed a 3.5 year deal (if the 1 year extension is true). There's different ways of framing it, but if the rumour was 'Arnie signed new 3.5 year deal' rather than 'Arnie signs 1 year extension', it sounds far more significant.
I agree with Grey on this. People can be frustrated by the saga, but this is the outcome we all wanted a couple of weeks ago. Our last month, in purely contract terms, can be summarised as:
"West Ham sign Samir Nasri and extend the contracts of two key players - Arnie & Rice"
He's a game changer and a player who genuinely scares the opposition when they see his name on the team sheet
There is a question mark about how committed he is, but as far as I'm aware he is the type of guy who excels when he's annoyed because he's a fiery character
I just hope he is fully fit, because he was never allowed time to recover properly after he got injured and that's why he looked off the pace for so long
He's an asset and if it's only gonna be another 5 months with him let's hope it's a good 5 months
Mine wasn’t so much a dig at the board pelle or arnie anyone be stupid not to want him on side he’s better than we’ve got without him it was just a question to find out answers not slating board I’ve done that previously but now they deserve praise
There's been enough drama around him, didn't like the way his brother acted on his behalf, but now IMO that's the past, It's time for him to to the business on the park!
Why are so many assuming that he'll leave in the summer? I don't think he'll get a better offer from any other EPL club given his temperamental attitude and it looks like West Ham have effectively priced him out of the Chinese market taking into account the 100% tax a Chinese club would have to pay. Where else is he going to go? Maybe he'll just accept that we are as good as it gets for him at this stage of his career and focuses his undoubted ability on getting us up the table.
Don’t think there is any argument that most if not all of us want Arnie playing?
Try something different?
I’d say it’s not an every day occurrence that a club say he’s staying and under contract.
Then 2 weeks later they reward him with a slightly improved deal, that (rumour) has a buy out clause in, plus more incentives.
Trouble is, during that 2 weeks he was quoted as saying he would give 100% while at the club but the reality is .....
His head wasn’t right for one game - not selected.
Didn’t do enough in training - not selected.
Therefore he has played a part in what the manager thought and did, and I can’t see that being anything other than a negative for the club, because we lost both of those games, obviously you can’t blame Arnie for all that but it is a factor and we will never know if we’d have a decent shot at 7th or how we’d done in the FA cup
Then to release that video just after, truly incredible imo, that’s up there in one of their top 3 PR gaffs, and they’ve got a few!
Now if there is another PL club that has acted like this I’ll say fair enough it’s just the game these days
I do agree that announcing it immediately after the result was a PR gaffe. They should have done it before to give everyone a boost, or they should have waited til today.
Absolutely Alderz, I just can’t work out the timing of it unless it was an incredible amount of arrogance thinking we’d get a result and boost some kind of feel good factor?
The fact he says he’s BACK is telling for me, therefore he truly believes he’s been away, well where have you been Marko?
You haven’t been injured (possible minor back complaint) therefore you may not of officially refused to play but you did enough to let the manager believe you either weren’t ready in the head or on the training ground.
Stop taking us for mugs, get back to working hard and doing your best and what your paid for, I won’t give you any flack as long as you do that, but I won’t be praising or lording you either, the team yes but not you.
Apparently, 20 years ago today, we signed Paolo Di Canio. That turned out to be a rather good signing, although I think my exact words at the time were, we don’t need that sort of player.
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Bring on the clowns.
Did he leave then? Was he injured?
One of the biggest games of the season and he’s again not available, but has some little sweeteners written into his contact....
Is his head okay now, bless him.
Shambles
I want to see Arnie in our team, fired up and firing.
If the club have managed to ensure that, that's excellent news, imo.
I find it very hard to be neagtive about the fact that we have given ourselves a better chance of keeping the best forward (imo) we've had since Deano.
I’m so pleased I didn’t get caught up in it all ;whistle
I am pleased he stayed, we really do need him. But can he please gag his brother.
In the summer, who knows. A new 5-year deal would have implied commitment, a year extension sounds like a sweetener for staying until seasons end.
But, after watching Carroll & Hernandez last night, god do we need him.
A new 5 year deal would have taken him up to 34. Effectively, he's signed a 3.5 year deal (if the 1 year extension is true). There's different ways of framing it, but if the rumour was 'Arnie signed new 3.5 year deal' rather than 'Arnie signs 1 year extension', it sounds far more significant.
I agree with Grey on this. People can be frustrated by the saga, but this is the outcome we all wanted a couple of weeks ago. Our last month, in purely contract terms, can be summarised as:
"West Ham sign Samir Nasri and extend the contracts of two key players - Arnie & Rice"
Not bad, I'd say.
He's a game changer and a player who genuinely scares the opposition when they see his name on the team sheet
There is a question mark about how committed he is, but as far as I'm aware he is the type of guy who excels when he's annoyed because he's a fiery character
I just hope he is fully fit, because he was never allowed time to recover properly after he got injured and that's why he looked off the pace for so long
He's an asset and if it's only gonna be another 5 months with him let's hope it's a good 5 months
I don't think he'll get a better offer from any other EPL club given his temperamental attitude and it looks like West Ham have effectively priced him out of the Chinese market taking into account the 100% tax a Chinese club would have to pay.
Where else is he going to go?
Maybe he'll just accept that we are as good as it gets for him at this stage of his career and focuses his undoubted ability on getting us up the table.
Try something different?
I’d say it’s not an every day occurrence that a club say he’s staying and under contract.
Then 2 weeks later they reward him with a slightly improved deal, that (rumour) has a buy out clause in, plus more incentives.
Trouble is, during that 2 weeks he was quoted as saying he would give 100% while at the club but the reality is .....
His head wasn’t right for one game - not selected.
Didn’t do enough in training - not selected.
Therefore he has played a part in what the manager thought and did, and I can’t see that being anything other than a negative for the club, because we lost both of those games, obviously you can’t blame Arnie for all that but it is a factor and we will never know if we’d have a decent shot at 7th or how we’d done in the FA cup
Then to release that video just after, truly incredible imo, that’s up there in one of their top 3 PR gaffs, and they’ve got a few!
Now if there is another PL club that has acted like this I’ll say fair enough it’s just the game these days
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The fact he says he’s BACK is telling for me, therefore he truly believes he’s been away, well where have you been Marko?
You haven’t been injured (possible minor back complaint) therefore you may not of officially refused to play but you did enough to let the manager believe you either weren’t ready in the head or on the training ground.
Stop taking us for mugs, get back to working hard and doing your best and what your paid for, I won’t give you any flack as long as you do that, but I won’t be praising or lording you either, the team yes but not you.
coyi
That turned out to be a rather good signing, although I think my exact words at the time were, we don’t need that sort of player.
He signed a shirt for me and as his was the first, I of course had to get his name and number on the back. ;biggrin