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I missed that.
Can you point me to where you saw it, thorn?
Also not sure where I read it, but sorry to hear about your family member? Been through similar in the last 12-18 months, stay strong.
Pellegrini has now said that from what he saw in training last week both Perez and Arnie were not as good as the rest, hence they didn’t make the 18, on top of that there were discussions between MP and MA and he didn’t think he was in the right place.
I’m sorry but the geezer is an absolute disgrace, I don’t care what his reasons are, the way him and his brother - who is employed / hired by arnie have acted is nothing short of disgusting.
Redknapp (I know!!) also said yesterday that he was told Arnie refused to travel.
;angry
Now that it seems the deal has fallen through next weekend Pellegrini could decide Arnie is in the right frame again.
Why is he being given this im not sure, I trust our managers judgement and at the moment it imo shouldn't be questioned.
I agree, the club should demand a figure and if not met, he stays, whether he likes it or not, if he doesn't wanna train or play, take him to the cleaners....
If he should stay, surely it'll be in everyones best interest, including himself to perform, which might then help him get his desired Chinese move at the end of season...or when the transfer market opens again....
Noble says none of the players have any problem with Arnie, they want him to stay but they understand why he'd want to move (perhaps because they'd all do the same if they were offered that sort of money).
For the players football is not personal, its business.
Can anyone on here honestly say they wouldn't be tempted by four times the money to do the same job somewhere else?
He should already be set for life, numerous signing on fees at 10% and money for that leech of a bother. But obviously he isn’t, and that’s up to him, but try and act in a dignified manner, let’s not try and mug the club, manager and fans off eh?
I can tell you now, this has got me way more angry than the Payet situation, and Arnie can’t match what Payet did for us.
Nothing I have read suggests that the squad would have any problem with Arnie if he stays, and if he does the business on the pitch nor will most fans, I would imagine.
He's the best forward we've had in years, and I would be much happier seeing hi play the rest of this season with us. We're a far more dangerous attacking unit with him on the pitch.
I don't really get why so many fans seem to be taking it so personally. The club would axe or sell any player in a heartbeat if it suited them, and it wouldn't matter how much the player wanted to stay. Not sure why players should be any different.
As ASLEF has pointed out, Arnie trained all week, but Pelle chose not to use him. Not sure why that paints Arnie in such a bad light. No one is having a go at Perez for not making the 18...
RVT: "The statistics are evident to all but, despite this, it has been made obvious to myself and my representatives that I am not in the manager's plans. Therefore, it is with a heavy heart that I submit a transfer request and look to join a club where my approach to the game will be appreciated."
Not exactly the same situation as Arnautovic.
Unless I’m mistaken the Chinese super league is hardly worthy of the name at the current time so why not get a move to Leyton orient who currently seem likely to win the national league and he’d get a medal.
I know his motives were different.
He wanted to be 'first name on the teamsheet', rather than stay and play a back-up role (which was still nevertheless essential to our squad, providing quality cover for injuries and enabling rotation of players, esp in Cup games, that would help maximise our performance over a season). So his wishing to break his contract was still going to have a negative effect on the club.
Also, another thing that makes it not the same situation - Vaz Te asked to move. Arnie has only responded to (as far as we know, unsolicited) outside interest.
Is that why the difference, though ... people don't like the idea of Arnie moving to earn more money? ;hmm
This isn’t about him wanting to earn big bucks. Fair play to him for that. It’s his life. This is about him doing the right thing whilst he remains a West Ham player, which could be another 3 years.
In the words of his spokesman:
“Marko is professional and is preparing himself for the Arsenal game. He will give 100 per cent for West Ham. That is Marko. He will never change.
“Until he is no longer a West Ham player, he will give everything to the club. He hopes the fans can respect his wishes.”
Not sure Noble said that. I thought I saw somewhere that he was sorry for wanting to go, but that could be false memory.
What Marky Mark did say was: and
Not the same thing.
'It is his great desire that West Ham accept the offer from China.'
Lots of players train all week and don't make the matchday squad.
Arnie, when fit, is/was 'first name on the teamsheet' and therefore considered as more important to us than RVT who, if as you say, was being used for back-up only. The loss of Arnie will impact us more than the loss of RVT would have.
I agree with what Thorn said:
"If he’d come out and said that he’d never really had thought to leave but the money is ridiculous and he just couldn’t turn it down then I think people would have more sympathy."
To me, saying to the club I want you to accept the offer construes a transfer request.
At no point, to my knowledge did Arnie say that he’s aware of an offer but he’s a West Ham player and it’s not up to him but if the club are prepared to accept it then I’ll have to consider it.
I may be wrong but I think the whole thing has been engineered by he and his brother, primarily the latter.
He’s said that he will continue to give 100% but clearly in training something fell short whether it was his effort, form or his head being turned...he owns that as well
There must’ve been other times when he may of fallen short in training but his head was where it should be and he got picked, one of the first on the sheet probably, there is no way that MP would reduce our chances in a game by not picking him for no reason, he knows we pose way more of a threat when he’s on the pitch
I just can’t see how this doesn’t stop at Arnie. I’d love him to stay, focus release a statement, a proper one and say he’s fully committed to the club, if he doesn’t go anywhere this window. I think they’re playing games either to get a massive pay rise from us or force our hand in the similar way the Dave’s had to take less that we probably wanted for Payet.
If he does stay he’s got a real job on his hands winning over the fans, not impossible because normally playing well and scoring pretty much trumps anything else with our lot.