The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...
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2 very experienced guys, may not have had the best runs but assistant roles probably suit them
Also Pearce did manage the England u21 for a good time so that coupled with Moyes faith in youth might see some of the kids get some game time
EDIT: Yes he was
A common issue that I kept reading / hearing with Bilic was that nobody knew who his assistants were, and nobody knew what they did. Under Allardyce we all had a pretty good idea about who was who and what they were doing, but the guys Slav had seemed pretty useless (obviously I don't know if they were though).
I really believe that these are appointments that will drive the club forward.
Both Pearce and Irvine have spent a lot of their coaching careers in youth development too, so, if these become long term appointments, it could be a positive for the academy too.
I was very anti-Moyes when it was first mooted, but he's making all the right noises and seems to be a lot more involved in the training sessions. On a personal level he'll be very motivated to do well, and I think the players will react to that.
I think if he can build a decent foundation with Irvine, Pearce and McKinley and they keep us up, I'd be loathe to change that again in the summer should a 'big' name become available ;hmm
I guess it all depends on what happens between now and May, but if he can get us playing to our potential and we finish top 12, you could argure he's done enough to warrant more time in post.
;hmm
TBH I think his success here will come down to how motivated he really is. He could just as easily think “if it doesn’t work I only had 6 months to make an impact, and I won’t be tied down to the club long term”.
Hopefully he’s determined to put himself back on the map.
I mentioned we had got seven games in a row live on tv weeks ago! Keep up. ;biggrin
“Obviously I have not been able to train under him but right now, things are looking good,” last season’s top scorer said.
“He’s come in and things have been quite intense. Everything’s quite different. He’s out there, he’s standing with the boys, he’s taking training himself and he’s very involved.
“I see positive things. I feel like things are going to go well under him"
Maybe in his last few games what some took as sulking was merely frustration that things didn't look like improving.
Moyes, speaking before Hernández’s injury, said that he would be relying on the striker and his other senior players to keep the team organised during matches. “They need to be there to say: ‘Yeah, we know what we’re doing.’ Ultimately you organise them, do the work during the week, but then there is a responsibility. That’s why the players are paid very good wages: they can’t be looking round and saying: ‘We want the manager to tell us what to do.’ They have to have a bit of responsibility themselves.”
These are people who have worked at the top of the game, Moyes has bossed Man Utd and Pearce is an England legend and ex Man City manager. These two guys are also very competitive and will hate being seen as they are in management terms at present, they also are two people you would not imagine to need the money which means they are here to change their footballing fortunes, and as they know they are not part of a long term plan as it stands, they will know they must hit the ground running..... and that could mean sparks could fly at Watford. We could see one of the most fired up teams ever seen. I am getting quite excited now.
“We could see one of the most fired up teams we have ever seen”
MATRON!
;wink
Moyes - recent form since Everton, Sacked by Man Utd after one season,failing to qualify for champions league, first time in most peoples memory. Sacked by Real Sociadad after one season and then took Sunderland down in one season.
Pearce - Great player but given some top drawer chances to show management ability but always ended in being sacked, currently out of football and advertising a betting company.
Billy McKinley - Sacked with Moyes in Spain, then sacked within a year by some Norwegian side, then most recently care taker of Sunderland, who he leaves bottom of the championship.
Alan Irvine - Can't really gripe or get excited about his recent past.
typical West Ham managerial team, that we have suffered for, far too many
years. Hopefully I am wrong, we will see how we stand at the end of the season.
If we are relegated, no doubt we will have another clear out.
Man Utd looking at Mourinho: previously successful, just been sacked only 6 months after winning the title because he couldn't motivate players. Involved in a legal battle around sexism and workplace bullying.
Liverpool looking at Klopp: just finished 7th with recent champions and champions league finalists. Last game in charge was to lose the cup final.
Newcastle looking at Benitez: sacked by Madrid after 6 months for failing to manage one of the best sides in the world. His successor went unbeaten for 40 odd games after replacing him and won the champions league.
If I take an objective view had we not appointed Moyes I would not have been able to foresee another Premiership club looking to him after what happened at Sunderland, likewise I could not see where Pearce's next chance would come from, and McKinley after being fired in Norway and helping take Sunderland to the bottom of the Championship was unlikely to be offered the permanent post, or likely many others. If however hypothetically Benitez was sacked by Newcastle, he can come in at a high level pretty much when he would like I imagine as his stock is still very high. I think that the gamble we have taken is entrusting our survival this season to a group of people who are near dropping through the bottom. The other way of looking at it which is what I was attempting to until Chicago mercilessly shot my optimism/ delusion down in flames was see it that all these people have a last chance and will need to take it and so will bring every bit of what they have to this opportunity, which may provide at least the short term boost to move us out of danger this season. I am still running with that idea as I tend like to look upwards, but in reality Chicago is likely right.
Meanwhile Everton are still looking and being rejected and I dont think Silva would have been their first choice.
How much would we be knocking the board if they had got rid of Slav without a replacement lined up...
Is it a lot, Ted?
A good coach does not necessarily make a good manager and a poor manager does not necessarily make a poor coach.