Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

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  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;wave I'm going to split out some comments from this thread that are not about the manager, and for which we have already got threads on the relevant topic.

    I might leave it up to you to work out where they've gone. ;biggrin
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Outcast

    Just out of interest do you think Roeder should have been given a chance for several seasons? After all didn't he prove that he could do it too?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Outcast

    ":The atmosphere isn't just dead at this stadium, it was pretty bad a lot of the time at Upton Park."

    That applies to the vast majority of grounds in the Prem at least so to aim it at West Ham specifically is just plain wrong imo.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    Outcast

    Just out of interest do you think Roeder should have been given a chance for several seasons? After all didn't he prove that he could do it too?

    If Bilic takes us down it's a different story but if not, he deserves a chance to rebuild. Do we want to keep changing managers every couple of years?
    IronHerb said:

    Outcast

    ":The atmosphere isn't just dead at this stadium, it was pretty bad a lot of the time at Upton Park."

    That applies to the vast majority of grounds in the Prem at least so to aim it at West Ham specifically is just plain wrong imo.

    I don't care about other stadiums. I didn't say West Ham were worse than other teams, I said our fans aren't as good as they think they are. And actually, I think the atmosphere was often worse than dead, it has seemed like a weight on the players heads more often than it has uplifted them.

    People talk about players being spoilt, not working hard enough, not caring etc. like the old days. Well, I wasn't there in the old days but if football supporters really were so good then, they've obviously changed. They want managers gone at every corner, decide players aren't good enough after 10 mins, do almost nothing to lift their team.

    Who do we actually think we are? No manager will take us to the 'next level' without a takeover. What right do we have to be ahead of Everton, Southampton or Stoke, let alone the top 6? We could pick out a gem of a manager like Southampton have a couple of times but he'll then go somewhere else and we're left rebuilding again. I'd rather see us consolidate than try to jump forward.

    Sure, we're not playing well and this season has been difficult but we're still 12th despite all the issues we had with Payet and Europa, imo, having an impact on how we had to buy in the Summer.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Outcast

    ;ok

    So that's a slightly different point. Keep him for several years but maybe get rid if he takes us down?

    Which then presents a grey area - what to do if we are sitting in a hull type position after 30 games next season? Keep him with the risk we will sink. Or bring in someone to do a rescue job ;hmm

    I personally do not think the daves will for one moment want to take any chances with our Prem status - they already got stung by not acting when it came to grant.
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    I think we will stay up just because the sides in the bottom 3 are so bad .

    So if this works that way then 2 wins and a couple of draws should be enough
    so let Bilic have another window put his foot down with the board and demand some quality players get rid of those who failed this season and start again .

    That said Bilic will have to learn from his mistakes and stubbiness and playing
    players out of position and also use the cups to bring in some young players
    like Southampton and even Everton have done this season .

    ;ok
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    I think we are post the last season at UP bounce and are at a realistic level for the squad we have. I think we need to keep him.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Rumour doing the rounds this morning is we're after Jaap Stam.
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    It was on the back of the Sunday Mirror. I reckon just paper talk.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I very much hope not Slizzy as I think the board should stick by Bilic.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    What a pile of old pony.

    A manager has had a decent half season at a Champo club, and we're all over him?

    I know there are those on here who don't rate the DDs, but surely no one could take this seriously, could they?
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited March 2017
    I think every man and his dog gets linked to us, not sure why. It's quite aggravating.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    If it's in The Mirror, I don't think it can reflect the true situation.


    Reflect?

    Reflect?


    ;yercoat
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    MrsGrey. you forgot this ;yercoat and this ;yercoat.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited March 2017
    ;biggrin

    I'm a glass half full kind of person.

    (See what I did there? ;wink ;wahoo )
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    and this ;yercoat
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;wahoo

    Listing on ebay, make a fortune.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited March 2017
    And meanwhile in the Daily Mirror (any relation?) ... if Bilic is let go, we will move for Rafa Benitez.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Benitez could maybe attract a few bigger names than Bilic , I talked to a Newcastle fan and Benitez was not happy in January during the transfer window so I think it will depend on Ashley getting his wallet out. Not that I think we should get rid of Bilic at this moment in time but Benitez is one of the few managers who I think is a step up.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Rafa Benitez..... NO NO NO




    NO
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Oh Suze, you know you want to. Just look into his eyes...

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  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    I notice the club has started up that idiotic Mediawatch section on the website again. Today's section includes speculative content that undermines Bilic's position. Amateurish.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;doh
  • LukerzLukerz
    Bilic hasn't gone from overseeing our best ever season (points wise) to not being the man for us.

    The club need to do the right thing here and back him. Don't make the mistake of thinking he's the reason we're struggling and not the fact the net spend this season has been pretty low.
  • LukerzLukerz
    ITK on KUMB says Bilic will be replaced by Mancini in the summer. ;hmm
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    http://www.football365.com/news/west-ham-are-flawed-but-entertaining-keep-bilic

    Quite a good article on Bilic and our troubles this season
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited March 2017
    Lukerz

    We have the 6th highest net spend in the PL this season.

    And net spend isn't really relevant, since the club had never planned to sell Payet, so it's not like they were being cheap in the summer, when they spent over £50m and only sold Tonka for £10m.

    The simple fact is we spent over £70m on bringing in players this season.

    I'm really not sure what good it does to try to avoid or deny that.
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    Bilic is only under pressure because the 9 players we signed are not good enough its that simple , you could argue Ayew Fonte, and Snodgrass but the rest where simply rubbish imo .

    we lack leaders and certainly lack real pace in this time with the exception of Antonio , Mancini is not the man to replace Bilic imo he is used to managing teams with much higher calibre of players than we have and much bigger transfer budget
    than we are willing to offer him , if bilic goes we should look at the guy at Hull
    who I think will turn out to be a real class manager in time at the right club. ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    ITK on KUMB says Bilic will be replaced by Mancini in the summer. ;hmm

    ;lol total made up pish and tish.

    Sorry but whilst Mancini was my first choice I realise that we are far too small a club for him.

    He'll want Champions League.
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    edited March 2017
    PLF. from your link:

    "Let’s start with the attack. Andy Carroll missed most of the first half of the season, which is news on a par with the sun rising in the east"

    ;lol
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