Noble's Comments on Fans

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  • Giant_HammerGiant_Hammer
    Twaddle? Twaddle? Informed twaddle I'll have you know young lady. ;lol
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    In the spirit of one of England's greatest pundits, Glenn Twaddle.
  • alderzalderz
    NE

    I got them from squawka.com. They use Opta data.

    http://www.squawka.com/players/mark-noble/stats
  • alderzalderz
    BTW that Premier League stats centre is amazing. I kind of wish I was still doing that blog
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    alderz said:

    Ok, so I took at a little look at Noble's stats this season compared to last.

    Fewer tackles attempted per game, smaller tackle success rate, fewer interceptions per game, lower % forward passes, fewer passes altogether, fewer chances created per game, fewer shots per game.

    Greater pass accuracy (fairly negligible difference).

    noble

    Part of a team that was flying last year and one that has had to overcome multiple issues this season

    Makes sense to me
  • alderzalderz
    IZWT

    Not disputing that, I'm just pointing out that the suggestion that his form is worse is not untrue. I don't think he's the only one to have a poorer season by a long stretch
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Here's the thing

    Last season many of our players were lifted considerably due to the presence of a world class talisman. Noble was one, cresswell and Collins were further examples.

    This season the talisman has gone (he went in spirit quite a while before he physically left). So to me there seemed to be lack of a similar presence to lift the side. Morale and team ethic may be strong off the field but this is not translating into positive outcomes on the field for the large part.

    This is where you look to the captaincy qualities of the likes of Lucas Neill and Nolan, neither of whom were technically great as footballlers but certainly had the ability to lift those around them. I just don't think Noble is that same type of personality. His captaincy is coming under more and more pressure.

    That's one of the reasons I'd be over the moon if we somehow managed to sign, say Joe Hart.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    How many times last season when Payet was of a positive mind did we haul ourselves back into games that this season we've either not and been crushed or have and still let it slip in the end?

    Plenty.......

    He may of been toxic in the camp when he came back from the Euros but boy could he play and did he work well for us, the finishing the free kicks the assists.

    Typical WHU luck that we end up having to cash in on the best thing we'd had for over a decade.
  • alderzalderz
    Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

    Typical WHU luck that we end up having to cash in on the best thing we'd had for over a decade.

    You sure about that?

    Jonathon-Spector--007
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Interesting Slavs column this week:

    http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/mark-noble-lives-and-breathes-and-we-ll-miss-him-as-player-and-captain-writes-slaven-bilic-a3492161.html


    (Posted here as it is mainly about Noble)
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited March 2017
    interesting title for the link, sounds like he is in a coma or something just from that headline.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Noble plays better with Kouyate alongside him , when all the play is going through him he tends to slow things down too much but when Kouyate is there he can drive the play forward better and also has the legs to help cover .
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Alderzzzz

    ;clap
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I think one of the issues is that a Captain possesses certain qualities that have a greater longevity than their physical abilities and so they become harder to displace in the team for team mates because of their holding the captaincy.

    I also think Nobles comments are defensive of himself and understandably so as any leader or Captain must possess self belief and if he allowed that to be eroded he would not be able to lead.

    A similar situation to Kevin Nolan a couple of years back, still great as a captain but the legs had gone in comparison to his highly impressive early career. I will stress I do not feel Noble so far down the road at this point and that he still has a big part to play, I don't however think he should have a guaranteed place if fit.

    Ultimately I am a Noble fan as all teams need their home grown fans and he is ours through and through.
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