Newcastle v West Ham Match Thread - Saturday 26th August - 15:00

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  • PengemanPengeman
    Reid is apparently out of the Newcastle game (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/winston-reid-injury-adds-to-west-ham-defensive-woes-amid-transfer-search-a3616646.html). We need a leader at the back and that calls for Collins. He wasn't in the squad against Southampton. Hope he is not crocked.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Collins was training today.
  • alderzalderz
    If you wanted a diamond I think the only place in the diamond for Antonion would be the tip. Obiang holding, Kouyate and Lanzini on the sides, Antonio on top
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    But Antonio is a winger by trade so he goes wide with Lanzini at the top.
  • HammerexHammerex
    The Mirror is reporting that West Ham are already looking for another manager
    due to the Hammers poor start to the season.
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    Hammerex said:

    The Mirror is reporting that West Ham are already looking for another manager
    due to the Hammers poor start to the season.

    I hope not. Bilic is our man.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Usual rubbish, we lost 5 of the first 6 games last season and Bilic is still here.
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    edited August 2017
    It seems like Bilic survived by the Skin of his teeth last season if you believe reports. So I don't think he has too much credit in the locker with the Daves.

    I think Benitze may be on the market soon as Mr Ashley is not backing him in the market and we know he was our first choice before Bilic.

    Just speculating of course, not saying he should go after 2 games...
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I do not want to swap Bilic for Benitze.

    Benitze was offered the job before Bilic got it but turned us down.

    I don't like Benitze and think he is all about the short term, chuck huge amounts of money at it and sulk if he doesn't get said huge amounts of money. Then sulk a bit more.

    The only manager I would want instead of Bilic is Carlo Ancelotti.



  • PengemanPengeman
    Should Fonte play? I think in about the 18 games that he played we have only won about four times (I am sure someone more tech savvy can check this). The Southampton game exposed his lack of pace and positional sense. How long can he be carried?
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited August 2017
    If they are looking to replace Slaven lets hope they make a better job of it than they did replacing Avram with Martin O'Neill.

    I don't believe they are, its the same as last season, speculation by the press.
  • alderzalderz
    IronHerb said:

    But Antonio is a winger by trade so he goes wide with Lanzini at the top.

    But the sides of the diamond aren't wide positions, they are central midfielders
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    #headache
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    What I want to know is will Andy Carroll be up front for the Magpies? ;whistle
  • LukerzLukerz
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Yes, all senior competitive games count towards the ban.

    ;ok
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited August 2017
    I would now go:

    Hart
    Zabaleta - Collins - Ogbonna - Cresswell
    Antonio - Noble - Rice - Obiang - Ayew
    Chicharito
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Hopefully Lanzini is back for this, in for Ayew. Possibly Kouyate in for Rice, too.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Rice and Collins have to play... imo.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited August 2017
    Heard the commentator say he reminded him of Eric Dier. Now I know it's lazy to say 'the next so and so' but I thought the similarities were frightening. If he plays it means when under pressure he can drop into the back four to make a five as well. Think he needs minutes going forward. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one for saying 'just play kids' but this kid looks like he knows it's his time.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Wasn't the Ginge/Ogbonna partnership one of our most solid ones in terms of clean sheets kept during Slav's first season?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    When I met Lanzini on Monday I asked if he would play at Cheltenham and he said "no, Newcastle"
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited August 2017
    Lukerz - yes

    Ogbonna Collins partnership 2015-16 in the Prem
    Played 10 Won 5 Drew 4 Lost 1 Goals conceded 7 Clean sheets 6

    Other combinations
    Played 28 Won 11 Drew 10 Lost 7 Goals conceded 44 Clean Sheets 5
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Lukerz said:

    Heard the commentator say he reminded him of Eric Dier. Now I know it's lazy to say 'the next so and so' but I thought the similarities were frightening. If he plays it means when under pressure he can drop into the back four to make a five as well. Think he needs minutes going forward. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one for saying 'just play kids' but this kid looks like he knows it's his time.

    I thought the commentator was poor. When he had nothing to say he still insisted on saying something...
  • stevesteve
    ;hmm seems like most of us then,.................. ;sofa
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Adam said:

    Who were we playing in those 10 games, ASLEF?

    Stoke H 0-0
    Swansea A 0-0
    Villa A 1-1
    Saints H 2-1
    Liverpool H 2-0
    Bournemouth A 3-1
    Newcastle A 1-2
    Norwich A 2-2
    Sunderland H 1-0
    Spurs H 1-0 (with Kouyate in a back 3)

    Only 5 clean sheets which proves I can't count, that's why I became a train driver and didn't go work in the ticket office (lucky escape as they're all closed).
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    Not 100% on the condition of the players but I would like to see:-

    ------------------------HART-------------------------
    ----ZABALETA-----COLLINS-----OGBONNA---CRESSWELL---
    ------------KOUYATE----RICE-----NOBLE ---------------
    ------AYEW-------------------------------ANTONIO----
    ------------------------HERNANDEZ--------------------

  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    I think Obiang should play ahead of Rice, and hopefully Lanzini is fit to replace Ayew. Agree with the defence.
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    I would like to see Kouyate / Obiang / Noble play together.

    Have they ever?? I think due to injuries / form they have never started a game a three??
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    Jorderz, fair enough ;thumbsup , I just feel Obiang isnt quite there yet after his injury and needs to be eased back a bit to get back into form, he has been a touch off pace so far. Also Rice will add more for set pieces(which could be decisive) and a natural shield to the back 4 which would free up Noble and Kouyate a bit more. Anway, big fan of Obiang though ;bowdown ;bowdown ;bowdown
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Twc ;thumbsup

    You might be right about Obiang, but hopefully he can get back to last season's form ASAP.
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