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She's trying to rule with a heavy hand. They're now applying the pressure by suggesting that if "everyone" doesn't sit, or actually everyone doesn't sit when they've got objectionable (and quite right too) person or persons behind them, you'll be chucked out and this in turn won't help the club as they won't get the other 3,000 tickets, denying many other claret members for the foreseeable.
They are going to have their work cut out making thousands sit in the BML and STL if there are still people there who want/need/must sit.
If this was all that bad (and I'm not playing down the complaints from people sitting and getting frustrated - at all), then why did they increase it from 54,000 to 57,000?
I mean, if the standing problem is THAT bad at 54,000 then why increase it at all, cap it now and tell everyone to conform before it goes any higher, to even 57,000 let alone 60,000.
How do another 3,000 tickets get added on when you've admitted the standing problem has stopped it from having the full 6,000 added to the capacity?
I'd say at a guess, because they know they'd have a problem, 52,000 ST only leaves 2,000 tickets at 54K not even enough to allocate away fans, let alone the thousands that were promised a ballot by being Claret Members......
So they've conveniently added 3,000 phew that gets out of a tight corner doesn't it
;wink
the rules that apply now. It's like a road that had a speed limit of 40mph and now
it has changed to 30mph.
The first time you exceed the speed of 30mph you get a fine and 3 pts on your license.
The second time you exceed the speed limit of 30mph you get a bigger fine and another 3 pts on your license.
The third time you exceed the speed limit of 30mph you get an even bigger fine plus a ban for driving.
If the rules at the London stadium are that there will be no standing, then that is
the rules, and it is irrelevant what happened at Upton Park.
Ignore the rules and you should be evicted from the ground, shouldn't take long
before fans sit on there seats instead of standing and then all can see the game
without having to stand up.
Perhaps the club should've thought about all this when selling the +2's?
;whistle
;ok
The club have helped cause this situation, due to numerous processes within the selling of ST's for the Olympic Stadium
Perhaps if it seems like the 'pro-standing' posters are in a minority, it's because (amongst this site's posters, anyway), they actually are? ;hmm
If Newham council won't raise the capacity to 60k then that's money lost, not just to the club but to the LLDC and VINCI.
As for facts some of us like to live in the real world, maybe it because we're old and cynical, or because with early onset of Alzheimer's we need to cling onto what little reality we still can!
There is also no need to shout. ;biggrin
There are fans that have been displaced, because of the +2 system, there are fans that didn't like the comparable view in the new stadium or what they were being asked to pay, many were forced to upgrade as it wasn't even close to being comparable. There are groups of fans that were displaced as well, the OS doesn't have as many tickets like for like in the BML (standing) as what is available in the OS. Those fans have gone to other area's and took their "non-seating" habits with them (which I don't agree with at this stage).
The fact remains for me, the plus two scheme helped in no small part to stop people from having a bigger/wider choice in where they sat. The club chose that system, from what I can tell, to sell as many tickets as they could, because they were worried they'd end up with a partially empty stadium, when in fact they didn't need worry at all. Still it's pushed up demand so they should be okay for a good few years why the 30,000 wait.
And as I said, nothing will change my mind, well unless the club release some kind of information that could change my thinking, but I doubt that will happen.
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Got seats on the brain!!
So it looks like I've repeated a lot of what you've said, when actually I didn't know you'd said it.
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I never once said it was easy, but I do honestly think there was a better way, especially to take care of your previous 26K "loyal" ST holders and your at the time members.
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A comment I'm not sure will help the debate?
(btw - I wouldn't follow me around too closely, your Agree's and CMU's will drop dramatically - FACT)
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I really worry that if it does become what you've mentioned in the last paragraph, then the atmosphere has gone. They've already come out with statements like "you can make an atmosphere while seated"........No DG you really can't/don't.
Nothing I have seen or read suggests that persistent standing would have be allowed under any circumstances, no matter where ST's 'new' seats were located.
But do you think the club may of had the conversation.......
"what about all the folk that generally stand in the TBL and BML, what will happen to them if displaced?"
"let's worry about selling 52K any way we can first, then perhaps we'll deal with that later"
;wink
http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/Cardiff-City-s-incredible-journey-by-Dr-Steve-Frosdick
I think given time West Ham and the stadium owners can come up with a similar solution. ;scarf
Sidetable for your pot noodle ;wink
We sold out
;quaver