The UK is Out - New PM - and whither now for Article 50

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  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Can we vote for Bilic? ;hmm
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Why should there be a general election. We've never ever elected a PM. Our elections are to elect a party and the general public have never chosen a party leader.
    We don't have a US type of politics.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Boris is making his acceptance speech for PM.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    thornburyiron said:


    We don't have a US type of politics.

    And trust me, you really really do not want to

  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Thorn

    By all means let the parties choose their leader, but where that involves them becoming PM outside of an election, would it not be better to allow the voters to decide if that should remain the case?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    There's nothing stopping them just going on until the next election as is. I don't think there's any legal basis for having to have a PM.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    thornburyiron said:

    There's nothing stopping them just going on until the next election as is. I don't think there's any legal basis for having to have a PM.

    I think we need to have a PM ;wink but you are right, we don't need an election by right.
  • SwissironSwissiron
    thornburyiron said:

    Why should there be a general election. We've never ever elected a PM. Our elections are to elect a party and the general public have never chosen a party leader.
    We don't have a US type of politics.

    What a very good point this is - in this sense our Prime Minister is and will be just as "unelected" as the Euro commissioners.

    I wrote the following quickly this morning for the local paper, sorry I cant translate it all into English just now..

    le resultat de la plebiscite a été vraiment un désastre. L'Union Européenne constitue l'unité politique la plus coherente (faute de meilleure) face a un avenir internationale difficile et problematique pour tous les europeens et pour ceux qui cherche a vivre dans l'Union, et la décision (faut le dire, vivement discuté) de prendre la sortie nous touchent vivement au coeur. Mais il me semble c'est une sortie d'un avion deja decollé. Nous sommes maintenant très inquièts que notre pays s'est lancé dans une période de complexité, insecurité et des risques geo-politiques extremes en mi-terme, et sans parachute. Le R-U, premiere vue, touche a la fin, au revoir l'Ecosse, le terrorisme en Nord Irlande, qui restait toujours au seuil, peut revenir vite. Nous avons surtout des soucis pour nos jeunes et nos enfants qui peuvent etre empêchés de chercher un avenir épanouissant avec un horizon plus large - que nous leurs parents, ont achevé, et ce dont nos parents meme ont battus et sont morts. La GB ne peut pas marcher - ni voler - tout seul..
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Thorn

    There is, of course, nothing to prevent it; I was merely suggesting it might be more democratic.

  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited June 2016
    Looks like Corbyn could be on his way out too.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    #silverlining
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    baracks

    Why?
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Good.

    Labour need a strong person at the helm..... someone to combat Boris.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Grey

    Apparently a no confidence motion has been raised by senior back-benchers
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36621777
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Absolutely Billy.
  • MoojorMoojor
    There is now also going to be another vote for independance for Scotland

  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Moojor the UK parliament has to approve/make the law change to allow another referendum. The Scots can't just have one.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    And how will that go down.

    UK parliament allows a referendum on EU membership.

    Denies the Scots a vote on their own future.

    Untenable, surely?

  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    #hypocrisy
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    So Corbyn said he didn't like the EU but was voting remain

    I suspect that would have confused the hell out of labour supporters up and down the country

    He is probably decent enough, and certainly is different, but has never been leadership material.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    He said he was 7/10 Remain ;doh
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    IronHerb said:

    He said he was 7/10 Remain ;doh

    Is he Braderz?? ;hmm
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Mrs G I don't profess to know how it works. The law which was passed to allow the first one may deny another one for a period of years.
    At this rate people seem to want referenda on a best of three or five or first to 10 basis.
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    We had a referendum on Scottish membership of the UK. The Scots voted to remain part of the UK.

    We had a referendum on UK (not Scottish) membership of the EU. As part of the UK, all Scots were entitled to vote on UK membership of the EU. Those that wanted to vote did. The UK voted to leave the EU.

    #NoHypocrisy
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    thornburyiron said:

    Moojor the UK parliament has to approve/make the law change to allow another referendum. The Scots can't just have one.

    No. I think you'll find that the Scottish Parliament can arrange and carry out the referendum as Sturdeon said "the Scottish government would begin preparing legislation to enable another independence vote."
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited June 2016
    IMO it's the beginning of the end of the EU in its current form. There'll be a queue of countries looking at us and demanding they have a similar say.

    Eventually all that could be left is a German republic overseeing struggling economies such as Portugal, Spain and Italy
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    And a totally bankrupt Greece.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited June 2016
    thin end of the wedge...

    China and The US are laughing like drains...
  • MoojorMoojor
    Scotland voted to remain in the UK which was part of the EU and therefore by extension Scotland were in the EU.

    Not that the situation has changed dramatically and added to the fact that Scotland voted to remain in the EU, they will be doing what ever they can do ensure they get that vote.
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